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MIKE PETTINE PRESS CONFERENCE TRANSCRIPT AFTER PRACTICE 9-17-14

Mike Pettine Head Set Photo

Opening statement:

“New week, new challenge. Makes it a little bit more involved with this one because it is a division opponent. This is a good football team. The film doesn’t lie. I don’t think they were really themselves – they’ll be the first ones to admit it – when they played Cincinnati. I think you saw how they want to play going back to the Thursday night game. It’s a big challenge for us. I think it’ll be our stiffest challenge to date, and just wanted to make sure our guys got re-focused today in the team meeting and just still (have) that ability to compartmentalize wins and losses and move onto the next one I think is critical for our success moving forward. We’re two games in, and the guys I think have done a good job realizing that essentially the only thing the Saints game did for us was guarantee that we won’t go 0-16. I have a lot of respect for this franchise we’re getting ready to go against having spent some time there, knowing a lot of people down there that I worked with – a lot of respect for it. Having that information, it’s easy to figure out how big of a challenge this is going to be for us.”

 

On if there has been any recent news on the length of WR Josh Gordon’s suspension:

“No news, and I know there’s talk with upper level of management, but I’m bunkered in. We’ve got team meetings. We’ve got group meetings. Then, we go into position meetings. Until he’s here and we get official word, then I’ll deal with it at that point, but at this point, I think there’s still a lot of stuff floating out there as far as what – and I’ve heard a lot of different things, and it’s just hard to react to it until we actually get definitive word from the league.”

 

On if he thinks being around the team would be helpful to Gordon:

“I think so. I think that’s true of any player. I just think the structure, the ability to be around the guys, the camaraderie, just all that goes with it, and going back to the structure part of it – to be able to eat here and to lift here and be under the guidance of our strength and conditioning program, (Director of player engagement) Jamil Northcutt with the player development and (head athletic trainer) Joe Sheehan – just to have that support and that structure around, not just for Josh, I just think that anybody that’s going through anything like that it’d be helpful to be back.”

 

On if the game can be a statement in regards to the Browns’ past games against divisional opponents:

“We don’t really get into the past other than we looked briefly at the history here so our guys know what we’re dealing with, but previous struggles in the division – that has no bearing on this game, just like what happened this past Sunday has no bearing on this game. I think we have to have that ability to close that noise out so it doesn’t become a self-fulfilling prophecy like, ‘Hey, we’re not supposed to be good in the division, therefore we won’t be.’ I just think that we know it’s a little bit extra when it is a division game, and I just think it’s important for us to play well in the division. You see a lot of teams play well outside of it and can’t get business done in the division, and I just think it’s important when you look at long term, whether it’s any team – any of the 32 – that you’re direct path to the playoffs is through your division. That, to me, just goes with it. You see some teams that are in tough divisions. They fight their way to be 8-8, 9-7, and they get in and make a run because they’ve been battle-tested by the strength of their own division. Again, I don’t want you put too much on it. There’s a little bit more on it because it is a division game, but we don’t look at it that way.

 

On the defense having trouble stopping the run:

“It was more by design this past week. We were in some smaller groupings and some lighter-spacing defenses more to encourage the run. Sometimes when you go against those elite quarterbacks, you have to have that mentality a little bit that you understand you’re going to concede some rushing yards, but in the long term, the clock’s moving, you’re shortening the game. I think they ended up with 10 possessions for the game, which is below the NFL average. Pittsburgh, I think, was more of a product of us missing tackles. I thought we tackled better against New Orleans, but we still want to go into each week…this week will not be a, ‘Hey, let’s them run the ball.’ I think, going against this team, they ran the ball extremely well against Pittsburgh. I think this’ll be more of a typical AFC North, old school kind of game. We want to run the ball, so do they. I think it’s important for us to take that mentality that we’re going to stop the run.”

 

On if the Jets defense allowed the Patriots to run the ball when he was on the coaching staff in order to defend Patriots QB Tom Brady:

“Correct, at times. Yes.”

 

On what he looks for in a MIKE linebacker and if LB Karlos Dansby has ‘it’:

“He absolutely does. That’s why he’s here. We’re looking for a guy that – first and foremost – can be a leader, take charge of the huddle, that is smart, can know the package inside and out, if guys have to be moved or calls need to be changed or check made that he’s capable doing it. The way that we play with our front guys and how we want to them to…if they’re getting double-teamed, to make sure that they anchor in. We have a saying with our d-linemen, ‘Keep your double teams to yourself.’ We don’t want those guys to be able to get off on the linebackers. That Mike linebacker needs to be a playmaker. He’s going to have opportunities where he should be clean to the ball in a lot of situations, and he needs to make plays. He fits that mold. That was something when we evaluated him on tape. We actually had done it in Buffalo and had him in for a visit, free agent visit, and he chose to go to Arizona. As staff, he was on our radar when he came available this year, as well.”

 

On what about his defensive scheme helps LB Paul Kruger:

“We’ll move him around some, won’t always have him on one side. We’ll give him some freedom with some of his pass rushes where we rarely talk in terms on contain. As a pass rusher, if a tackle presents him with a…it’s an over-set situation and he can come underneath we can give him the green light to do that. I think the guys that have played in it, some of the feedback you get is, ‘Hey, they kind of let me be me.’ There’s structure, but there’s some ability to freelance within it, as long as it’s tied in with everybody else and there’s some awareness of that. I think that’s true at certain positions. Outside linebacker is one of them, but as long as the guy that’s rushing next to me knows that there’s a chance I might take an inside entry then he’ll have to know that because there’s a chance that he might have to overlap. I think those guys do a good job of playing off of each other, but I think that’s important as a pass rusher that you aren’t always in that mold where, ‘Hey, I’ve got to set an edge. I’ve got to contain the quarterback.’ When offenses know that, it makes life easy on the tackles.”

 

On if it is accurate that Kruger is playing well against the run:

“It is, and I think that was more of a…I think he was always very physically capable of doing it. I just think it was our commitment to doing it at that position and just the techniques that we use, and I think it just became more of stressing it and an aiming point thing. I think a lot of that is just how they’re taking on blocks and the direction where they go towards the tackle. If you’re too far up the field, you’re going to get bounced up field. It’s simple physics. You’re usually outweighed by a lot when you’re going against tackles. If we’re thinking run, then we’re going to tighten those aiming points down, give him more of a chances. He’s bought into it, and there we’re some growing pains with it. There were a couple times in the preseason where he was running up the field. That’s when we hit him with the old, ‘Hey, you can’t get a sack on a running play.’ I overuse the phrase, but he’s one of the ones if you say, ‘Hey, who’s really bought in?’ It’s been ‘Krug.’”

 

On the physical and mental toughness the Ravens had when he was on their coaching staff and if that’s what he wants the Browns to look like now:

“It is. That’s what I know, and we tried to mold the Jets the same way. I think when you have that err about you – this goes back to the opening press conference – we talk about being tough, mentally tough, physically tough. When you look over the long haul those are the teams that win consistently. You can have long-term, sustained success if that’s your M.O. Even from an offensive standpoint, talking about running the football, sometimes conditions aren’t going to allow you to spread the field and air it out. Defensively, it’s just simple that if you have a great, tough defense and it’s hard for a team to score you’re going to be in most games. It’s something that I learned. It was a blueprint there for sure. When we had our success that’s what it was based on, and when we were successful in New York it was the same way.”

 

On why running backs coach Wilbert Montgomery is a guy he thought he’d like to have on his staff:

“I was fortunate enough to have worked with not just Wilbert, but with (offensive line coach) Andy (Moeller) for a year. It was on (Ravens Head Coach) John (Harbaugh)’s staff. His first year, Wilbert was the running backs coach and Andy was the offensive line coach. I got to know those guys really well. I was a little bit star struck when I first met Wilbert. I grew up a (Philadelphia) Eagles fan. I had a big poster of him. I had a Wilbert poster and my (Hollywood actress) Farrah Fawcett in my room (laughter). I mean, my hands were shaking when I met him. He’s Wilbert Montgomery. Being an Eagles fan, that was special. I learned very quickly just what a good football coach he is. He’s passionate. He’s tough. I think you need at least one guy like that. Fortunately for us, Andy brings a lot of that mentality, too. It was really a no-brainer to hire both of them.”

 

On if he’s going to address all the stuff going on in the NFL with the team –HGH testing, the Ravens RB Ray Rice situation and the Vikings RB Adrian Peterson situation:

“We will. I think as everything settles down from this and we get later in the week and the beginning of next week because it’s the bye week, we can spend a little bit more time before we kind of turn guys loose with the time off. That’s something that will definitely be brought up and discussed. I know Jamil Northcutt does a good job keeping those guys educated. It’s very much an open door. If guys are having problems, they know they have places to go. It’s important. You can’t ignore it. It can’t all be about football. There’s a human element here, and I think you’re doing yourself and your team a disservice if you just kind of forget that stuff and hope everything works out. We pick and choose our times to talk about it. Now in a game week it’s tough. We’re bunkered in, focused on this game, but there will be times where we kind of poke our heads up and look at the big picture.”

 

On if he’ll sit WR Josh Gordon down and have a talk with him when he comes back:

“That’s a hypothetical. I’m sure at some point when he is permitted to come back in the building. I’ve already had some good sit-downs with Josh, (General Manager) Ray (Farmer) and I both. When that occurs, we’ll sit down with him and just kind of lay the plan out for him. We’d like to think that all of our players…we’re on the same page with all of them as far as, ‘Here’s what your role is. Here’s what our expectations are.’ I don’t care if it’s the 10th guy on the practice squad or if it’s one of your better players, I just think that communication is important. Too many times you get caught making assumptions. It’s just better to be out in the open.”

 

On if the AFC North is one of the most physical conferences in football:

“Back for sure when I was with Baltimore through the bulk of the 2000s, it was very physical. Division games were…they called them double chinstrap games. You knew that – both teams – that the ice tubs were going to be filled up after the game. That was just the nature of the division. I think maybe in recent years it trended away from that, but I think it’s starting to circle back. Pittsburgh looks like they’ve committed themselves more to running the football. Certainly Baltimore…you look at the defenses in the division – Baltimore with the tradition, Pittsburgh with the tradition. Cincinnati’s defense has been real good lately. That’s certainly continued this year. We want to get ourselves to the point where we’re being mentioned with top defenses as well.”

 

On if the Ravens offense is the same as the Browns:

“There are some similarities, but it’s not tear the cover off the playbook. It’s not the same book. I think that (offensive coordinator) Kyle (Shanahan) took what he liked from (Ravens offensive coordinator) Gary (Kubiak’s) system and kept it and then did some things on his own – changed some things up. I’d say the running game is probably much closer than the passing game is. I’d say the pass concepts between the two teams are different. There are still some similarities with the bootlegs and play action off of it – the early down stuff. I think the third-down pass games are very different.”

 

On if it’s because of the players’ skill sets:

“I’m not sure. I just think it’s how…I mean Kyle was in Washington and kind of did his own thing. To me, you’re always going to match your scheme to your players. There are some things in Kyle’s playbook that he probably hasn’t used yet just because he’s highlighted a certain area of the book based on who we have here. I’m sure they’re going the same thing. They have two big vertical threats with (Ravens WRs) Jacoby Jones and (Torrey) Smith and then obviously Steve Smith. He’s not as vertical as he was before, but still, he can run all the routes, make all the catches and just brings that high level of energy to that offense.”

 

On what it is about Ravens LB Terrell Suggs that has made him so successful over the years:

“He had a great position coach when he first started out in the league. I take all the credit (laughter). No Suggs, to me he’s a guy that…he works. He loves football. As goofy as he can be sometimes, at his core he loves the game, loves to compete. Like I said, he’s a fun loving guy, completely unfiltered, but when it’s time to flip the switch, he’s all about it. He’s a unique blend of size, speed and strength. He didn’t time well in the 40 (yard dash), but his short area quickness – which is what you need for a pass rusher – to me, is rare. He’s a guy…like I said, he works at it. He’s gifted naturally, but he’s made himself elite with his work ethic.”

 

On how glad he was back in 2006 that the Ravens got DL Haloti Ngata when they switched picks with the Browns:

“Oh yeah, when we flipped picks. To me Ngata was one of the top guys on our draft board. We were thrilled that he fell to where he did. I do remember the trade. I think it was (former Browns LB Kamerion) Wimbley, a sixth round pick and (Babatunde) Oshinowo (Jr.), a kid from Stanford. Haloti was a guy that we were thrilled to get. There were some question marks about him coming out that we thought were laughable. To me, we felt it was a steal to get him when we did. Obviously he’s produced at a high level for a long time.”

 

On if the ‘laughable’ question marks on Ngata were about his health:

“No, I think it was an inconsistent motor, but here was a guy that didn’t come off the field very often. He blocked seven kicks, I think, in college, something like that. When you watch the tape, we just didn’t see it, and it was never an issue for us at all. He loves football and was a great teammate right from the beginning. He was one of those rookies that stepped in, and you wouldn’t have known he was a rookie. Just another rare blend of a guy that big that he brought us videos of his…he was a very good rugby player and just him 320 pounds playing rugby and just five, six guys hanging on him. He just showed what a good athlete he was. He could dunk a basketball any way he wanted to. He’s a very unique athlete, and to his credit, his work ethic has had him playing at a very high level for a long period of time.”

 

On what his early days at the Ravens were like and if he ever had a vision that he would end up being an NFL head coach:

“No, I was thrilled to be there, and I was very much in the…people say, ‘Be seen and not heard.’ I was the not be seen and not be heard mode because I just know a big part of it is just getting in and I was very fortunate that the circumstances played out that I got my foot in the door. It was just bunker in and work. Worked a lot of long days, I was with the video department during the days, during practices. Then, I went and worked with the coaches at night just helping out with some of the computer stuff and overflow, quality control type of stuff and was just very fortunate to just step into a situation where it was (Falcons defensive coordinator) Mike Nolan, (Falcons Head Coach) Mike Smith, (Jets Head Coach) Rex (Ryan) – just guys that were future head coaches in the league. (I was) just very fortunate to have been essentially dropped into that situation.”

On the status of RB Ben Tate, TE Jordan Cameron and LB Barkevious Mingo:
“I don’t see Tate being able to go this week, and I’ll just hold comment on the other guys until we get them out there and see. Those two guys will likely practice today on a limited basis. We’ll see how they develop as the week goes on.”

 

On if he sees much of Jets Head Coach Rex Ryan’s defense left in Baltimore:

“Some, not much – I think it’s just kind of been a transition over time. I think when (Ravens defensive coordinator) Dean Pees took over there was much more of a New England influence – what he had done when he coordinated there. I think if it was back when it was (Colts Head Coach Chuck) Pagano or (former Ravens defensive coordinator Greg) Mattison you would have seen a lot of it. I think just over time…there are still elements of it, and I don’t know if the terminology has changed at all and how they identify things – just the language. It’s there, but I don’t think it’s…if you watch the two teams play, you wouldn’t say their roots are in the same defense.”

MIKE PETTINE POST-GAME TRANSCRIPT FOR 26-24 WIN OVER SAINTS

Mike Pettine 1st Win Photo vs Saints 9-14-14

Opening statement:

“Obviously (there’s) a very happy group of Cleveland Browns in there. I just told them I couldn’t be more proud. There were a lot of times during that game where we could have just let it slip away. We battled back and made enough…this game is about making plays. Just like last week, Pittsburgh made one more than we did, and we made one more today. (I) couldn’t be prouder – couldn’t be happier for all the work. Just going back to the spring, the time that those guys put in, not just the players but the coaches…pay days don’t come very often. You only get 16 times a year in regular season. We got paid today.”

 

On how his first win felt:

“I can’t lie. It feels great. I have a big old cigar with my name on it waiting for me. Don’t ask unnecessary questions please (laughter). It feels great, but to me it’s more…I know I represent this group, but this was a Cleveland Browns win. We wanted it for us. We wanted it for the city. These fans came out, and you could just feel the energy in the stadium today. It was awesome.”

 

On LB Karlos Dansby’s playmaking ability, specifically his sack:

“He was upset coming off the field because he didn’t get the ball out, but that’s the kind of guy he is. We needed a play, and obviously he stepped up and made one.”

 

On some of the catches WR Miles Austin made in the last drive:

“I think he was upset with himself because he had dropped an easy one earlier. There were two catches he had that I remember for sure that – excuse me three, the one that they ended up looking at – those are big time plays, big time plays. It just shows you how strong his hands are.”

 

On if he’s starting to develop an affinity for QB Brian Hoyer and his style of play:

“I’m developing an affinity for winning, and he’s a big part of it. I thought he stepped it up that last drive. I think he was four-for-four on that last drive. (He was) very poised, bringing pressure, found ‘Hawk’ (WR Andrew Hawkins) wide open on the seven route. Some of the quarterbacks usually would look shorter in that situation, and he let it go. The fourth down throw to (TE Gary) Barnidge I thought was probably his best throw of the day. He cut it loose. The guy was hanging on his back. Gary made a hell of a play.”

 

On if he would have kicked a field goal if he only had eight seconds left after the review:

“No, because we had a timeout. We had a timeout. The initial thought was to spike it, but when we had a chance to reset, we were going to run a play and hopefully gain yardage. If it was incomplete, we likely would have had to still kick it anyway. If it was going to be a shorter play, we’d try to get a chunk of yardage and be down under five seconds and then call the time out.”

 

On if he originally thought Austin was out of bounds and didn’t think the clock was running there:

“We were getting ready to spike it, but then as they let us line up and there was that delay, we went ahead and called a play. Instead of spiking it and getting it down to seven then worrying about it again, just go ahead and run the play, get the chunk, and then go ahead and call a timeout. There was a lot of uncertainty. It was tough because it happened on the other sideline, but I thought the officials handled it well. (They) came over and explained everything and got it sorted out.”

 

On what the philosophy was behind using QB Johnny Manziel:

“Just as a change-up, we had that package ready to go. It’s something we’d worked on. We worked on it for Pittsburgh and just wanted to get it out there. I thought we had stalled a little bit on offense and just wanted to see if we could catch them off-guard a little bit and get a spark. To their credit, they defended it well.”

 

On if he thinks it lit a fire under Hoyer – he finished that drive with a touchdown:

“I can’t put words in his mouth. Knowing the competitor he is, he probably wasn’t real thrilled to have to come off the field. That’s the nature of who he is, as he should be.”

 

On if the defense had a plan for covering Saints TE Jimmy Graham early in the game and later on he became a playmaker:

“Early I thought our guys were flying around, and it was jump balls. That’s our best corner against their best receiver, and he made those plays. That’s who he is. Credit (Saints QB Drew) Brees for just throwing a good ball where he can go up and high-point it.”

 

On the botched extra point attempt:

“To me, it just looked like the snap was high. I didn’t know if it was behind him. He didn’t drop the snap. I thought it was high and kind of trickled through his hands.”

 

On Browns TE Gary Barnidge stepping in for Browns TE Jordan Cameron:

“Without peeking at the film, I think Gary played pretty well, just seeing some of his blocking first-hand right in front of me. The play of the game before the throw to ‘Hawk’ (Browns WR Andrew Hawkins) was the fourth-down conversion.”

 

On what his strategy was going into the final drive of the game with three timeouts and starting at their own 4-yard line:

“Well, the first one we took because our guys were gassed a little bit. It was above a minute and the clock was running. It was just one of those things, ‘You know what, let’s just reset it. So, let’s just basically start this drive at the 30 with two timeouts.’ I just think in the world of game management you do everything you can to hold onto one when it’s a field-goal game. I think a lot can happen when you’re out of them. Things can get very frantic trying to get guys on an off the field. Those things are like gold bricks, so we tell our guys we cannot be wasteful, especially in the second half.”

 

On if he ever thought about going for a two-point conversion in the third quarter:

“Discussed it briefly. I thought it was too early. As the game went on, and you’re thinking maybe in hindsight looking back, but I just thought it was too early to chase those points back. We were, obviously, frustrated thinking this should be a tie game. We talked about it on the sideline and decided that we were going to go ahead and kick it. Then, if we had scored again after that then, obviously, we would have gone for two.”

 

On what it says about the team to win this game without Browns RB Ben Tate, Browns TE Jordan Cameron and Browns WR Josh Gordon:

“It’s a credit to them and the coaching and the preparation. You can’t win with players you don’t have. As much as you can feel sorry for having guys that are out, injuries are a part of the game and that, to me, is what coaching’s all about. You adapt. You overcome. You put together a plan with who you have, and you go out and execute it.”

 

On how much the final drive of the game is going to mean to Browns QB Brian Hoyer going forward:

“I’m sure that’s something he’ll get asked, but I think it’ll be nothing but a huge, huge confidence boost for him.”

 

On the running game with two rookie running backs:

“I thought they were solid, missed a couple cuts, just peeking up and looking at some of the end zone replays. Have to see the film a little bit better, but they did a good job. They put a lot of guys up close, and I thought New Orleans, for the most part, tackled halfway well. That was that one drive – I think it was in the third quarter – that I thought we ran the ball extremely well. Those guys were really pounding. The offensive line did a nice job. Week-in and week-out that has to be a big part of what we do.”

 

On Browns DB Tashaun Gipson’s interception return for a touchdown and Browns LB Paul Kruger’s pressure on Brees on the play:

“I thought ‘Krug’ (Kruger) hit him just enough at the end to elevate the throw, and that’s what ‘Gip’ (Gipson) does. I think he’s one of the most underrated center fielders in the league, and you can see what he can do with it after he catches it too. That was good team defense because ‘Krugs’ made a nice pass rush move late and got the ball elevated and Gip did the rest.”

PODCAST – INSTANT ANALYSIS – BROWNS 26 SAINTS 24

BIG plays in crunch time win you games in the NFL and Browns players made BIG plays today down the stretch. Here’s my breakdown of Cleveland’s 26-24 win over New Orleans.

Billy Cundiff GW FG vs Saints

POSITION BREAKDOWN: CLEVELAND BROWNS vs PITTSBURGH STEELERS – OFFENSIVE LINE

I would take the Browns offensive line over the Steelers offensive line 10 times out of 10. Joe Thomas is the best of the bunch on both teams. He and fellow first round pick Alex Mack have lived up to their potential from when they were drafted and then some. Rookie Joel Bitonio will make some mistakes, but sandwiched between two pro bowlers will help cover up some of those mistakes. John Greco is average at right guard, but again playing next to Mack will help him. The weak spot on the Browns is right tackle Mitchell Schwartz, but Kyle Shanahan should be able to help him out thanks to the fact they kept a true fullback in Ray Agnew.

Brian Hoyer Drop Back Throw

Cleveland’s O-Line should be solid in the new zone blocking scheme and allow Ben Tate to run the ball at a four yards per carry average or better. The Steelers have shown in the preseason to be very vulnerable against the run up the middle. Also expect a short, quick passing game in which Bryan Hoyer gets the ball out of his hands quickly to allow the receivers and backs to gain yards after the catch. This should help keep the sack numbers down against Dick Lebeau’s zone blitzing scheme Hoyer and maybe Johnny Manziel will see on Sunday. The Browns depth isn’t great, in fact it’s average at best, but the starters should be solid. If those starters can help create holes for Tate to run through and keep Hoyer from getting hit and sacked, the Browns offense will be effective against a Steelers defense that is both inexperienced and old at the same time. Plus if the Steelers can’t generate a pass rush, it makes their secondary very beatable, even with the horrible wide receivers the Browns have.

The Steelers offensive line has been one of their biggest weaknesses the last two seasons and a huge reason why they’ve been (8-8) over that span and failed to make the playoffs. They’ve used four first or second round picks on the O-Line over the last five years and so far only one has proved to be worth it, Pro Bowl center Maurkice Pouncey. He’s their best lineman, but he has had trouble staying healthy, missing 19 games in his first four years in the NFL. Pouncey is healthy to start this season, and he will need to stay healthy to anchor an average at best line, that is expected to keep the Steelers most valuable player Ben Roethlisberger upright and healthy. If “Big Ben’s” time on the field is cut short due to injury, the entire Steelers offense will fall apart.

So if I’m Mike Pettine and Jim O’Neil on Sunday in Pittsburgh I’d be dialing up blitzes and sending as much pressure as you can at the likes of tackles Kelvin Beachum (LT) and Marcus Gilbert (RT) and inside against guards David DeCastro and Ramon Foster. Pressure on Roethlisberger is the one way for the Browns to have a chance to win this game in week one. Ben is known to try and make something out of nothing, or to hold on to the ball to long, so that’s where Barkevious Mingo and Paul Kruger and Donte Whitner have to create turnovers and make impactful, game changing plays and there’s a good chance against this line in week one that it could happen.

OFFENSIVE LINE ADVANTAGE  – BROWNS

BROWNS CUT ROSTER DOWN TO 53 – QUOTES FROM MIKE PETTINE

Official Press Release From The Cleveland Browns on Roster Moves – 8-30-14

The team terminated the contracts of four veteran players including 12-year veteran, wide receiver Nate Burleson; linebackers Zac Diles and Jamal Westerman; and running back Chris Ogbonnaya.

Cornerback Isaiah Trufant was placed on injured reserve with a knee injury that forced him to miss three of the Browns’ four preseason games.

There were 15 players waived. The list includes: defensive backs Josh Aubrey and Leon McFadden, defensive linemen Calvin Barnett, Jacobbi McDaniel and Justin Staples; offensive linemen Reid Fragel, Garrett Gilkey, Donald Hawkins, Alex Parsons and Abasi Salimu; quarterback Connor Shaw; tight end/fullback MarQueis Gray; running back Dion Lewis; tight end Emmanuel Ogbuehi; and wide receiver Willie Snead.

 

The Browns 53-man roster includes:

Offense (23)

Quarterbacks (3): Brian Hoyer, Johnny Manziel, Rex Grossman; running backs (3) : Ben Tate, Terrance West, Isaiah Crowell, fullback (1): Ray Agnew; wide receivers (5):  Miles Austin, Andrew Hawkins, Travis Benjamin, Taylor Gabriel, Charles Johnson; tight ends (3): Jordan Cameron, Gary Barnidge, Jim Dray; offensive linemen (8): Joe Thomas, Alex Mack, John Greco, Mitchell Schwartz, Joel Bitonio, Paul McQuistan, Martin Wallace, Karim Barton.

Defense (27)

Defensive linemen (7): Desmond Bryant, Armonty Bryant, John Hughes, Ishmaa’ily Kitchen, Phil Taylor, Billy Winn, Ahtyba Rubin; linebackers (8): Karlos Dansby, Barkevious Mingo, Craig Robertson, Paul Kruger, Jabaal Sheard, Chris Kirksey, Tank Carder; Eric Martin; defensive backs (12): Joe Haden, Buster Skrine, Justin Gilbert, Aaron Berry, Pierre Desir, Robert Nelson, K’Waun Williams, Donte Whitner, Tashaun Gipson, Jim Leonhard, Johnson Bademosi, Jordan Poyer.

Specialists (3)

Kicker (1): Billy Cundiff; punter (1): Spencer Lanning; long snapper (1): Christian Yount.

 

Among the more notable aspects of the Browns’ 53-man roster are:

Twelve defensive backs. The Browns are exceptionally heavy at this position, but that’s not a surprise given the high premium that coach Mike Pettine places on the secondary in a defense that emphasizes pressure and press-man coverage.

“It’s a big part of the system, just with how it’s become such a passing league,” Pettine said. “You need to carry a high number of DBs, especially corners.”

Besides first-round draft pick Justin Gilbert and fourth-rounder Pierre Desir, two rookie free agents — K’Waun Williams and Robert Nelson — and veteran newcomer Aaron Berry join veterans Joe Haden, Buster Skrine at cornerback. The safeties include two newcomers, Donte Whitner and Jim Leonhard, along with Tashaun Gipson, Johnson Bademosi, and Jordan Poyer.

Five wide receivers. After the NFL announced its season-long suspension of Josh Gordon last Wednesday, there has been plenty of discussion about how the Browns would address this spot. One thing they aren’t doing, at least for now, is going long here.

They cut veteran Nate Burleson, who missed the first three season games of the preseason with an injured hamstring, was cut.

“Nate is a true professional and it was a difficult decision for us.” Pettine said. “Ultimately, his availability was a concern with all the time he missed and we liked what we saw in the other players at that position.”

Undrafted free agent Taylor Gabriel made the roster, along with Charles Johnson, who was acquired last year despite recovering from a major knee injury.

“Gabriel’s an explosive athlete, he’s very strong for his size (5-foot-8 and 172 pounds),” Pettine said. “He has the ability to get off the line against press, which a lot of times you don’t find with smaller guys. A lot of times, you have to put them off the ball or have him on the move (before the snap).”

The top two receivers are Miles Austin and Andrew Hawkins, along with incumbent return specialist Travis Benjamin, who made a strong comeback from a torn ACL he suffered last season.

Rex Grossman is the third quarterback behind Brian Hoyer and Johnny Manziel. Grossman, a 12-year NFL veteran, has the best understanding of the offense of coordinator Kyle Shanahan, for whom he played when Shanahan worked in the same capacity in Washington. Grossman demonstrated as much during his preseason debut with the Browns last Thursday night.

“Rex is a veteran, he’s played in this system, he’s good for the (other) guys in the (quarterback) room, and he also showed that he can still throw it,” Pettine said. “And that’s the most important thing. He can still play.”

A true fullback made the roster, something the Browns haven’t had since Lawrence Vickers’ final season on the team in 2010. Undrafted free agent Ray Agnew, a traditional fullback in every sense, is going to bring plenty of blocking muscle to help open holes for Ben Tate and Terrance West.

“Ray was another guy that I’d put in that category with Gabriel in the sense that if you watched how he handled himself, you’d never know he was a rookie, especially an undrafted one,” Pettine said. “But he fits our commitment to wanting to run the football, he fits that classic mold where he brings an air of toughness.”

It would be easy to assume that undrafted free agent Isiah Crowell forced his way onto the roster with his 102-yard rushing performance — including a 48-yard touchdown — against the Bears that easily ranked as the most dynamic showing of any player on the team this summer. However, the Browns used a larger body of work in deciding to keep Crowell over incumbents Chris Ogbonnaya and Dion Lewis, who returned from a season-ending broken leg last year and at one point seemingly had secured the third spot behind Tate and West.

“It wasn’t something where he was on the outside looking in and, all of a sudden, he had that big night,” Pettine said. “He had flashed at practice and he was a guy that we knew had that type of ability. But you still have to show it in games, and we had kind of earmarked (the Bears’) game as one where we were going to feature him a little bit more. And, to his credit, he went out and performed.”

Although the Browns made 21 transactions to reach the 53-man roster limit by Saturday’s deadline, that does not necessarily mean they are finished with making moves.

“I think the 53 is always going to be fluid, especially at the start of the season.” Pettine said. “Ray and his staff have done an outstanding job of keeping tabs on the league and I’m confident they will continue to make any moves that are necessary to give us the best possible 53.”

NFLPA AND CLEVELAND BROWNS OFFICIAL STATEMENTS ON JOSH GORDON’S SUSPENSION

The NFL Players Associated released a statement on behalf of Josh Gordon:

“I’d like to apologize to my teammates, coaches, the Cleveland Browns organization and our fans. I am very disappointed that the NFL and its hearing office didn’t exercise better discretion and judgment in my case. I would like to sincerely thank the people who have been incredibly supportive of me during this challenging time, including my family, my agent, my union, my legal team, and the Cleveland Browns staff.”  

Josh Gordan Photo - Courtesy of AP Tony Dejak

photo courtesy AP – Tony Dejak

Statement from Browns General Manager Ray Farmer on Josh Gordon Suspension

“While we may have strong feelings on the timing and the process of this decision, we have also consistently communicated that we will focus on what we can control in our day to day approach. Right now that is preparing our team for the 2014 season and at the same time, supporting Josh however we are able under NFL guidelines during his suspension.”

Browns Helmet Sideways Photo

 

Statement from Browns Head Coach Mike Pettine on Josh Gordon Suspension

“We will continue to support Josh and we understand that there is accountability for one’s actions. Our job and that of the team is to focus on what we can control. Our philosophy in building this team and the mentality we’re establishing is that we’re going to have to overcome challenges and situations throughout the course of a season. We’ll continue to be relentless in our approach, in how we work and focus on our goal of returning winning football to Cleveland.”

 

MIKE PETTINE PRESS CONFERENCE TRANSCRIPT 8-25-14

Mike Pettine Post-Game Close Up

On where TE Jordan Cameron was today:

“He’s just dealing with an issue. He was excused today from practice.”

On if his shoulder is bothering him:

“He was excused from practice today. I won’t go into any other detail on that.”

On if it’s a one day issue:

“That’s the expectation.”

On if he knows anything about how long WR Josh Gordon will be out:

“No. I mean, we kind of have a feel for the range of it. Still, it’s something that, for as long as it’s been, we really still can’t…I probably shouldn’t have spoken on it yesterday. We’re just impatiently waiting.”

On what is at the top of the ‘must fix it quickly’ list this week:

“I think each position group kind of has its own area. Just overall offensively, we need to get first downs. We need to score points. It’s basic stuff. Defensively, I think the secondary knows they didn’t play very well. I thought we had some decent performances in the front seven when we evaluated the tape, but just too many – and it wasn’t just any one player – it was just too many issues on the back end. That’s where you get beat the quickest. If your front seven is playing well and your back end is not…if it’s flipped you can survive a little bit. If your secondary is not playing well, and we did not play well as a secondary the other night, then you’re going to have issues.

On if he’ll have all the defensive backs back for the opener:

“We’re hopeful. I think it’s looking that way. (DB Pierre) Desir might be the only one who could potentially be out, but we’re hopeful we’ll be back at a full complement at that point.”

On him saying that DB Justin Gilbert didn’t play well:

“He knows it. I don’t think it was anything that was a surprise to him. That’s a good lesson for him to learn. You have to show up each week and be focused and ready to go. He had a good week. He showed it against Washington, against a pretty good group of wide outs, then took a step backwards. That’s something that he’ll…especially when he’s playing opposite of (DB) Joe (Haden), there’s a tendency for more footballs to come his way.”

On if he’s showed that he’s able to have a short memory and not let his confidence get shaken:

“Yeah, he’s bounced back this week. He came out here with a good attitude at practice. He was fine in the meetings. I think the secondary coaches, those guys handled it well. Hopefully, we’ll see a better performance Thursday.”

On if he puts any stock in the fact that he made some plays in the second half:

“He did. He did on the one where he got beat across his face and then he ended up knocking the ball out – one that was a sure touchdown. That was encouraging. Just early on…he needs to test his limits more. I think he kind of played off. That hurt us in some of those third down situations. Of all times, it’s in preseason. Go ahead and challenge and see where you stand with guys.”

On if he’ll play his ones on both sides of the ball against Chicago and how much:

“Yes. Not sure, but I think it’s going to be…we’re hopeful that it’s going to be less than a quarter. It could be in and around that depending on how it plays out.”

On what his level of confidence is with OL Mitchell Schwartz right now:

“I thought Mitchell bounced back against St. Louis. We feel good about that offensive line as a whole. He’s not a guy we’re looking to replace. He’s gone out and I thought he’s had a good camp. You look at right tackles in the league. He’s a guy I think a lot of people would agree is solid.”

On his update on WR Nate Burleson:

“He went through some individual work today.”

On how he came out of the individual work:

“I’m not sure. I haven’t talked to the trainer yet. They’re probably in there seeing how he feels coming off the field.”

On if he’s safe for a roster spot if he continues to struggle to get healthy:

“I can’t speak on whether guys have a certain roster spot or not. First of all, it’s not my area. (General Manager) Ray (Farmer) and I will do that together, but that’s his ultimate say. It does hurt your chances not being out there, but it’s something where we’ll consider his entire body of work.”

On how RB Dion Lewis separated from the pack for the third running back spot:

“One of the things is a lot of the time you need that guy to be a third down back. I think that he has just the short area quickness. Even though he’s a small guy, he proved in the game that he’s not afraid to stick his face in there in the pass protection stuff. It’s not much of a separation, but like I said before, if I had to handicap it, I would put him ahead. I think the rep, the way (running backs coach) Wilbert (Montgomery) and (offensive coordinator) Kyle (Shanahan) have played those guys – I think that bares it out too.”

On if LB Chris Kirksey has been his most reliable rookie:

“Yeah, I’d put him up there with (OL Joel) Bitonio though. He’s been very consistent as well, but yes, we’re very pleased with where Chris is. Not to take anything away from (LB) Craig (Robertson), but I think they both played well enough to merit being starters in our different groupings. I think that always ends up being a plus for you on special teams as well because they’re sharing jobs on defense and can play a lot of (special teams coordinator) Chris Tabor.”

On where Craig Robertson has improved the most:

“I think he’s cleaned up some of the little things – his footwork, his awareness. We really preach to our guys to really take that picture of the opponent pre-snap. We’re real big on gathering pre-snap (information). What’s it telling you? What are the line splits telling you? What’s the formation telling you? What’s the alignment of the fullback, the depth of the tailback, the split of the receivers…all those things come into play. I think he’s done a good job of that as far as recognizing, ‘Hey, am I getting a run here? Am I getting a pass? Which way is the run going?’ I think if you’re smart, and it’s not just with Craig, but as an entire defense you can get a pretty good feel for what you’re going to get. I think he’s one of the guys that’s really bought into that and done a nice job with it.”

On how much work he’d like to see QB Johnny Manziel get on Thursday:

“I haven’t sent the rotation yet, but he’ll get some work. I clearly see him finishing the half. I don’t know if he’ll play into the third quarter or not.”

On if DL Armonty Bryant is competing for a starting job:

“I think he would. When ‘Des’ (Desmond Bryant) gets healthy, which we’re hopeful is fairly soon, I can see those two kind of sharing that job, so that way they’re both fresh on third down. I think in an ideal world if you can kind of job share on early downs guy that you expect to be pass rushers, I think it’s very difficult for a pass rusher to play every single snap. If a guy is an elite pass rusher, I would rather work his reps backward to forwards. Work him on third down. Work him on second and long. That way you’re guaranteeing that you have guys that have fresh legs in the third quarter.”

On Armonty Bryant’s run defense

“He’s gotten better. I thought at first that could have been an issue for him, but he’s gotten better with it. I think one of the things he does well is his initial quickness, get off. We can do some things schematically to help him, to kind of put him on the move, and not just having to anchor in and take on a double team – just kind of put him on the move and let him take advantage of his quickness.”

On if he is still confident with where the defense is at:

“Yeah, we do. It’s already answered. We’ll get those guys back. We’ll have (Browns DB) Joe (Haden) back. (Browns DB) Buster should be able to practice this weekend. Then, with (Browns DB Justin) Gilbert getting more live game reps I think that’ll be beneficial for us, expecting (Browns DB Isaiah) Trufant back as well. Getting those guys will definitely help. We’re confident that group knows that they didn’t play to our standards the other night, and they’re looking forward to bouncing back on Thursday.”

On if there has been any issue with calling the defense and game management as the head coach:

“It hasn’t, and part of it is we’ve kind of had a couple different methods that we’ve used calling the game so far. (Browns defensive coordinator) Jim O’Neil has called a decent amount of the defense so far. We were just trying to work some different combinations calling third down, calling base, calling the whole thing. That’s something we still haven’t decided yet on how we’re going to do it. It’s something that we might change up week to week just depending on how we feel coming out of that week of game prep.”

On reasons in terminating the contract of WR Anthony Armstrong:

“Yeah, I don’t know. He came in, he worked hard but it was just a move that (GM) Ray (Farmer) and I felt was appropriate at the time given that group and having young guys feel that have a chance to step up and make this roster.”

On QB Rex Grossman possibly playing Thursday night:

“That’s the plan. Again, I haven’t sat down with those guys and seen what they want to do quarterback-wise whether we want to play all four of them in the game so if Johnny (Manziel) does finish the half potentially we’ll see Rex and (QB Connor Shaw) split the second half.”

On whether he’s made a decision to keep more than two quarterbacks on the roster:

“No. I think that’s going to come down to once you get to a certain point you just start saying ‘okay, let’s keep our best football player.’ So that will come down to comparing across the board is the third quarterback worth having, a fifth safety or seventh defensive linemen or all of those decisions come down to wanting to keep your best guys.”

MY BROWNS – RAMS OBSERVATIONS

After watching the Cleveland Gladiators get destroyed in Arena Bowl 27 by the Arizona Rattlers 72-32 I was hoping when I left “The Q” I would be getting some good news about the Browns in their third preseason game against the Rams. I was hoping I could go home and pull up on my DVR the Browns looking good in what is considered the dress rehearsal game for the regular season. That was not the case as I checked the internet and saw a 33-14 defeat at the hands of the Rams. So I needed a break from bad football and waited until late Sunday night to watch the Browns game. Here are my observations:

Mike Pettine Post-Game Close Up

For all Browns fans out there, you have to hope that head coach Mike Pettine and his coordinators are holding a lot back. That they don’t want to show their hand as to what they are capable of doing on offense and defense. That “Vanilla” has been the name of all the game plans so far. If not, this could be a long season after what I’ve witnessed not only in the Rams game, but all of the preseason games so far.

Brian Hoyer In Game Close Up

 

The two biggest things I took away from the Rams game – 1) The Browns don’t have a legitimate, playoff caliber quarterback in Brian Hoyer or Johnny Manziel. 2) By them not playing in the game, it was made abundantly clear that the Browns have two playmakers, Josh Gordon and Joe Haden. Without those two players in the line-up, the negative domino effect was painfully obvious.

 

Rookie Justin Gilbert was picked on and beaten repeatedly by whoever was at quarterback for the Rams. With Haden out there, that won’t happen as he’ll take the opposing teams top receiver.  Joe Haden Mini Camp 2014

Gordon is the only player on offense that opposing defenses fear right now and maybe for the whole season. The Rams had 7 offensive plays of 20 yards or more, the Browns didn’t have any….NONE….not even one against the Rams third team defense!

The Rams with 4 different quarterbacks playing thanks to the injury to starter Sam Bradford, averaged 8.5 yards per pass attempt. Hoyer and Manziel averaged 4.7 yards per pass attempt. Pathetic!

What was supposed to be one of the strengths of this team, the offensive line, looked like a weakness Saturday night. Granted the Rams have a very good defensive line, but to give up 4 sacks and only rack up 32 yards rushing in the contest was alarming. That unit, on this team, including Joe Thomas was one I wasn’t overly concerned with, but I am now.

To be out gained by almost 300 yards, at home, in what is considered the most important preseason game of the preseason, is concerning to say the least. Plus the Rams did it with their back-up quarterback, and his back-up, and then his back-up. That’s their 4th string guy!

There were a few positives in the game, not many, but a few, so let’s give them credit.

Rookie linebacker Christian Kirksey had a solid game with 7 tackles, 1 tackle for a loss and an interception.

Defensive end Armonty Bryant only had 2 tackles, but he had a number of quarterback pressures (one knocked Sam Bradford out of the game and out for the season with a torn ACL) and he gave great effort whenever he was in the game.

Johnny Manziel In Game Money Sign TD vs RamsGranted it was against a combo of the Rams second and third team defenses, but Johnny Manziel showed off the one thing he can do and that’s scramble and make a play with his legs as he scored on a 7 yard run.

Punter Spencer Lanning was solid with a 40 yard average but more importantly he landed 2 of 5 punts inside the 20 yard line.

The return game was very good on both punts and kick offs. Good to see Travis Benjamin back as he returned a punt 17 yards and showed the speed we’re used to seeing from him. The Browns also averaged nearly 34 yards per kickoff return.

Also let’s credit the coverage teams as they haled the Rams returners in check on both punts and kickoffs.

 

TRANSCRIPT OF MIKE PETTINE’S PRESS CONFERENCE ANNOUNCING HOYER AS THE BROWNS STARTING QUARTERBACK

Mike Pettine Post-Game Close Up

On how much he hopes this decision will ease whatever burden might have been on QB Brian Hoyer during this whole competition:

“Yeah, I think that’s part of it. I think he’s handled it well. I think if you asked him, there was some stress there, but that’s part of football. We want to distress our guys. We wanted to put them in tough situations. We talk to the team all the time about mental toughness and dealing with adverse conditions. That was something that they went through and had to deal with, and I think it will only make them stronger.”

On if he thinks everyone underestimated how much stress was put on Hoyer between battling for the starting job and trying to come back from injury:

“I think the injury was a big part of it. I mean, he’s really – he hasn’t had that many true reps with a live pass-rush. I think anybody – it took (WR) Travis (Benjamin) some time to get back, (WR) Charles (Johnson) some time to really start to feel it. I don’t think it’s any different at the quarterback spot.”

On how much more pressure is on guys when you go ahead and open it up into a competition as opposed to if you had named a starter back in June and if that pressure is real when guys are going through this:

“I think it is. That’s a big part of football is dealing with an adverse situation or a competitive one. We don’t ever want a guy to feel like, ‘Hey, I’m good.’ There’s no better motivating force in all of athletics than pure competition. I think that guys get a chance to kind of see where they are. When the heat is on, you see how guys react to it.”

On if there’s any indication on Hoyer’s film that his knee is affecting his throwing:

“I don’t see it.”

On if he thinks Hoyer’s knee affects him mentally or psychologically:

“That’s something you’ll have to ask him, and maybe it’s a subconscious thing. I’m not sure. The injury didn’t occur in the pocket. I don’t know how much there is to that, and I’m not sure how he would answer that.”

On if he told the quarterbacks his decision himself:

“I told them this morning.”

On how QB Johnny Manziel took the news:

“As expected.”

On what that means:

“He’s a competitor. He wants to be out there, but he knows there are some things he needs to work on and it’s his job to press on and prepare every week as if he’s the starter. I think that’s on anybody that’s not in the starting position. They have to take that approach. I don’t care whether it’s a quarterback, a corner, a defensive lineman. They have to put themselves in that position to take those reps as the starter whether it’s mentally or physically. Physically, there will be fewer reps. I think he really has to dial in on the mental part, but he knows the task that’s ahead of him.”

On how he thinks Hoyer handled the pressure:

“I think he had a lot going on. We’ll see how things are for him now. I think maybe there’s some sense of relief or some re-found confidence. I just think he was dealing with a lot coming into camp where he was a hometown guy and was the starter, but he had a draft pick competing with him. Then, certainly we’ve already discussed it here, there’s just coming off the injury. I think that’s a lot on a young guy’s plate.”

On how, from the outside looking in, statistically, he didn’t handle it very well:

“Well statistically, I think I don’t get wrapped up in the numbers there. I think he had some drops that you could factor in, some routes that were run at the wrong depth, at the wrong angle. It’s easy to look at the numbers. I think when you look at the tape, it tells a very different picture.”

On if he could sense relief from the team that they finally know who the starting quarterback is:

“I couldn’t sense it when I announced it to the team this morning. There wasn’t anything that you could sense at that time, but yeah, I’m sure when you talk to the guys that will likely factor in.”

On if they seemed any more in sync on the practice field today:

“Today was our first day not in pads and I thought they handled it well. I thought we had good energy after coming off of a day off. I think we’ll go in the same format tomorrow because we showed we can still have a productive practice and not be in pads. I think, given the short week, we want to keep our energy up. I think that’s important to be able to practice like that. I thought we had a positive day. I think you can attribute it to a number of things.”

On why he ultimately decided to end the competition now instead of let it play out until after the next preseason game:

“Because of the reason before where I had kind of targeted this week. We wanted to have a starter in place because there’s no substitution for live game reps with the guys that you’re going to be playing with. There’s so many plays that involve being on the same page. If you never got a chance to practice them together, and more importantly, be in a game situation together, I think you’re doing yourself a disservice. We wanted to make sure it was – because I talked before when we announced that it would be a competition – finding that sweet spot between if you do it too early then they really didn’t compete at all and if you do it too late, you run the risk of now nobody is ready for the opener and you don’t have cohesion, chemistry, things that I’ve talked about. That’s why we had targeted it and felt when we met last night that we had enough information to go ahead.”

On if he would have done anything differently looking back:

“I know there are a lot of different ways to do it. This is the way that we chose. I think ultimately it depends on – because we’re all judged here on wins and losses – how it plays out. As far as coming up with a plan, formulating the plan and executing the plan and this is how we want to do it, I feel confident with it. I’m not going to sit here and say, ‘Yeah, I regret doing it at this point.’ I know when you looked at the game, it’s easy for people to say, ‘Well, they can’t get in a rhythm because they’re not out there.’ That’s something that – we wanted to put them in tough situations and see how they handle it. I know there are a lot of different ways to do things, but we were confident in our plan and we stuck to it.”

On Hoyer’s leash and if there will be a package for Manziel or is this Hoyer’s job:

“No, this is Brian’s job. This is Brian’s job and I never think of it as a leash or we want a guy to be a game manager. We want him to be confident and go out and play. People looked at our roster. We’ve added running backs. We looked to improve the offensive line. We want to be a well-rounded all-weather offense. We need to be productive. You can’t have one without the other. I think you have to be productive in all phases. I think it starts with the run and it starts with pass protections, but I don’t want our guys on offense to feel like there’s any type of governor there and they can’t just cut it loose and be aggressive. I think when you feel like you’re going to be solid on defense, that allows you to be even more aggressive on offense.”

On if he thinks if Manziel would have dedicated himself to sticking around the facility after the draft and working, he would have had a better chance at the starting job:

“I don’t question his dedication. I don’t. He made tremendous strides from an x’s and o’s standpoint from the time he left here after the, I think it was the rookie symposium, until the time he came back. I know there’s been a lot of discussion about his activity, but he clearly studied and studied a lot and came back significantly ahead of where he was when he left.”

On what comes next on the development of this team now that he has the quarterback situation settled:

“Chemistry is a big part of it – getting guys out, playing together, starting to narrow the package down to fit what we do well and then start to get a little more opponent specific. We’ll do that this weekend with the Saint Louis game. Then you’re always kind of looking at the season in chucks. We did some good work as a staff in the offseason on Pittsburgh and New Orleans and Baltimore. I think it’s getting to the point now with camp broken, where we need to go ahead and start to look ahead to that first part of the season.”

On if he’ll have a package for Manziel:

“I was already asked that.”

On not being present when the question was asked:

“It was asked while you were standing here. Didn’t you ask me that? No. The plays that he would run if he got into the game would be more suited to him, but I don’t foresee us now, especially early, being in a two-quarterback system.”

On if Manziel will play sometime this year:

“Give me a crystal ball. I’ll tell you that answer. The NFL season is so long. So much can happen. We don’t ever want our player – and I’ve talked about this already about the quarterbacks – we don’t want Brian looking over his shoulder thinking, ‘Hey, if I make one bad throw, I’m out.’ Over time if you feel you need to make a change – and it’s not just at quarterback; it’ll be at other positions as well. You have guys that you have penciled in who you’re hopeful can be that guy for you the whole year, but that rarely works out in the league. Time will only tell. You could foresee a scenario where he doesn’t play this year, and then there are other scenarios that are absolutely possible as well. It’s hard to tell.”

On if he’s figured out watching the tape why some of Hoyer’s throws have been inaccurate:

“Nothing from a true mechanical standpoint. Those guys would be able to answer that best. I just think they were two throws – I don’t know whether it was a case where he over-strided. The (WR Andrew) Hawkins one is tough because he was so explosive out of the break that Brian threw it to a spot and ‘Hawk’ (Hawkins) was so fast getting out of the break that he essentially over ran it. Brian knows, lesson learned, that Hawk is a guy who’s going to eat up some ground in a hurry. The plus is he’s going to be open. The minus is that it’s a tougher target to hit.”

On if his receivers are getting open enough:

“We are. I think we can get better. That’s part of having an inexperienced group in the system. I think we made strides with that in camp, and then hopefully we’ll take another step with that this weekend. We told our guys at halftime at the Washington game that we need to make plays. The NFL is about making plays. Our guys have to realize that – that somebody’s got to step up and we’ve got to put it all together. Whether it’s a quarterback making it, a running back making it, whatever it is, offensive football especially, is about guys making plays.”

On making a permanent commitment to a starter:

“No, I don’t want to make a permanent commitment to any starter. I just don’t think you can do that. I think you make more of a commitment to your quarterback because of circumstances that surround that position, but I think you need all your guys on your roster running scared a little bit that, ‘Hey listen, if I don’t perform – this is a performance based business – if I don’t perform, I’m not going to be in here.’”

On if he has any other positions that have been settled that he’d like to name:

“Yeah, the other ones we feel like we can kind of job-share a little bit. I thought (DB Justin) Gilbert played extremely well the other night. There was one coverage where I thought he played off a little bit too much, but I think for the most part, for his first time out there, he had a great look about him. He took the field. He was confident. He was smiling for a lot of the game. Sometimes rookies get that ‘dear in the headlights’ look. He didn’t have that at all. We haven’t decided yet. It’s a little bit uncertain with (DB) Buster (Skrine’s) injury, but Justin will likely be the starter on day one. I think (LB Chris) Kirksey and (LB Craig) Robertson have both earned a spot on this defense, so I think they’ll really both be starters based on what package we’re in. It really depends on what personnel group the opponent’s in.”

On who will start at right guard:

“You could say (OL John) Greco at this point. I think the starting five on the o-line has been solid for a while.”

On if he was happy with the running game last week:

“I thought we ran a little better. I thought (RB Ben) Tate showed up a little bit more. He averaged five yards per carry. There were a couple, you know, there was one four-yard run he turned into a seven-yard run. I thought that was good. (RB Terrance) West has done some good things. He’s learning. I think that competition is still wide open for that third running back spot.”

NEITHER HOYER OR MANZIEL DESERVE TO START

Brian Hoyer had a chance to lock up the starting quarterback job with just a halfway decent performance against an average at best Washington defense and he failed miserably.Brian Hoyer In Game Close Up

Hoyer had a chance to get the Browns in the end zone for the first time in a family day scrimmage and two preseason games and couldn’t do it. Hoyer missed a wide open Andrew Hawkins in the end zone in the second quarter. The pass sailed behind Hawkins, off his fingertips and to the ground, incomplete.

On the play before, Hoyer put a pass in the redzone right on the numbers to Josh Gordon on a quick slant and he promptly dropped it. So when Hoyer does throw a good pass, the receivers drop it. When the receivers are wide open, Hoyer has missed them badly the last two weeks.

In 2 preseason games Hoyer is a combined 8 for 20 for 108 yards with 0 touchdowns and 0 interceptions. His QB rating in the preseason is 57.9.

Johnny Manziel In Game Close UpSo Hoyer’s poor performance gave Johnny Manziel an opportunity to steal the job away from the St. Ignatius grad, but like the receivers, Manziel dropped that chance. He too missed receivers who were open and is finding out that he won’t be able to escape onrushing first team defenders in the NFL as easily as he did in college.

The two quarterbacks who are battling for the starting job combined to go 4 for 13 in the first half for 45 yards, with 2 sacks and just 3 points against Washington’s first team defense for the most part.

Mike Pettine may need 2 more preseason games to determine who deserves to be his starting QB. I thought for sure it was Brian Hoyer’s job, and if you’re forcing me to pick one, I’d probably still go with Hoyer. However I am less sure now then I was 24 hours ago.

There is one thing I do know for sure is currently the Browns don’t have a legitimate starting quarterback right now and the wide receivers still stink. That’s not a good combination when you’re just  three weeks away from your regular season opener!