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MY BROWNS – RAMS OBSERVATIONS

After watching the Cleveland Gladiators get destroyed in Arena Bowl 27 by the Arizona Rattlers 72-32 I was hoping when I left “The Q” I would be getting some good news about the Browns in their third preseason game against the Rams. I was hoping I could go home and pull up on my DVR the Browns looking good in what is considered the dress rehearsal game for the regular season. That was not the case as I checked the internet and saw a 33-14 defeat at the hands of the Rams. So I needed a break from bad football and waited until late Sunday night to watch the Browns game. Here are my observations:

Mike Pettine Post-Game Close Up

For all Browns fans out there, you have to hope that head coach Mike Pettine and his coordinators are holding a lot back. That they don’t want to show their hand as to what they are capable of doing on offense and defense. That “Vanilla” has been the name of all the game plans so far. If not, this could be a long season after what I’ve witnessed not only in the Rams game, but all of the preseason games so far.

Brian Hoyer In Game Close Up

 

The two biggest things I took away from the Rams game – 1) The Browns don’t have a legitimate, playoff caliber quarterback in Brian Hoyer or Johnny Manziel. 2) By them not playing in the game, it was made abundantly clear that the Browns have two playmakers, Josh Gordon and Joe Haden. Without those two players in the line-up, the negative domino effect was painfully obvious.

 

Rookie Justin Gilbert was picked on and beaten repeatedly by whoever was at quarterback for the Rams. With Haden out there, that won’t happen as he’ll take the opposing teams top receiver.  Joe Haden Mini Camp 2014

Gordon is the only player on offense that opposing defenses fear right now and maybe for the whole season. The Rams had 7 offensive plays of 20 yards or more, the Browns didn’t have any….NONE….not even one against the Rams third team defense!

The Rams with 4 different quarterbacks playing thanks to the injury to starter Sam Bradford, averaged 8.5 yards per pass attempt. Hoyer and Manziel averaged 4.7 yards per pass attempt. Pathetic!

What was supposed to be one of the strengths of this team, the offensive line, looked like a weakness Saturday night. Granted the Rams have a very good defensive line, but to give up 4 sacks and only rack up 32 yards rushing in the contest was alarming. That unit, on this team, including Joe Thomas was one I wasn’t overly concerned with, but I am now.

To be out gained by almost 300 yards, at home, in what is considered the most important preseason game of the preseason, is concerning to say the least. Plus the Rams did it with their back-up quarterback, and his back-up, and then his back-up. That’s their 4th string guy!

There were a few positives in the game, not many, but a few, so let’s give them credit.

Rookie linebacker Christian Kirksey had a solid game with 7 tackles, 1 tackle for a loss and an interception.

Defensive end Armonty Bryant only had 2 tackles, but he had a number of quarterback pressures (one knocked Sam Bradford out of the game and out for the season with a torn ACL) and he gave great effort whenever he was in the game.

Johnny Manziel In Game Money Sign TD vs RamsGranted it was against a combo of the Rams second and third team defenses, but Johnny Manziel showed off the one thing he can do and that’s scramble and make a play with his legs as he scored on a 7 yard run.

Punter Spencer Lanning was solid with a 40 yard average but more importantly he landed 2 of 5 punts inside the 20 yard line.

The return game was very good on both punts and kick offs. Good to see Travis Benjamin back as he returned a punt 17 yards and showed the speed we’re used to seeing from him. The Browns also averaged nearly 34 yards per kickoff return.

Also let’s credit the coverage teams as they haled the Rams returners in check on both punts and kickoffs.

 

BRIAN HOYER AND JOHNNY MANZIEL POST GAME REACTION FOLLOWING 33-14 LOSS TO THE RAMS

Here’s what Browns quarterbacks, starter Brian Hoyer and back-up johnny Manziel had to say after Saturday night’s loss to the St. Louis Rams in the third preseason game –

QB Brian Hoyer

On tonight’s performance:

“I think we did some good things and I think there are some things we obviously need to improve on.  Getting in the end zone… it was good to do that and finish a drive.  We have got to play collectively better as a team.  I made some mistake and other people made some mistakes.  We need to get back to the basics and focus what each individual person has to do on that particular play and take it one play at a time.  We get the ball moving and then we have a setback.  Coach (Pettine) put it the right way: we all have to play better.  Obviously, I have to too.”

On trying to gain consistency with different personnel:

“I think we are all just trying to come along together.  As an offense, you have to be on the same page and there obviously were some plays out there where we weren’t.  It’s going to come.  That’s what the preseason is for, to work out those kinks, and we will get better.  I don’t doubt that.  We show some flashes here and there and then we pull ourselves back.  Pittsburgh isn’t that far away so we need to hone in and fix those things.  We have another short week this week with just two days of practice.  I don’t know how much we will play, but I expect to play.  I think we need to.  We have just got to keep building.  I don’t want people to hit the panic button, I think we do some really good things.  We have just got to continue to do those (good things) and eliminate the mistakes.”

On if he gained any confidence in orchestrating a touchdown drive:

“I think so.  You have always got to build on your positives and learn from your mistakes.  To get it in there and get a good drive… and finish with a touchdown pass is definitely something we can build on.” 

On the starters welcoming extra work by potentially playing in the preseason finale:

“For sure I think we need it.  This is our first time together in this offense and with the competition that was going on, we need to go forward and be unified in one direction.  I think it’s going to come because we show flashes.  We have just got to stop kicking ourselves and finish the drives.  It was good to cap that one off in the end zone (tonight).”

On if penalties or cohesion of blocking schemes hindered offensive progress:

“It’s a combination of everything, it’s not just one person.  The thing about football is that it’s the ultimate team sport.  Ten guys can do the right thing and if one guy doesn’t, it throws things off especially on offense.  On defense things can get hidden a little bit more, but on the offensive side of the football we all have to be on the same page.  It’s a work in progress and we know that.  We have just got to continue to improve, go out and work hard and get better.  That’s what it comes down to.”

 

QB Johnny Manziel

On feeling more comfortable today:

“Absolutely. No doubt about it.”

On feeling more comfortable in any specific aspect of the game:

“I just felt more comfortable. I am just going out and playing ball. I’m just going out, getting better and having fun.”

On the touchdown drive:

“I think it was a little bit of a mess up drive. It was coming off a turnover so we had great field position. It was a great pick by LB (Chris) Kirksey. It was great to get a touchdown, getting it called back and then still being able to get in. It’s hard sometimes to overcome adversity with penalties in the red zone so it was nice to still be able to get in the end zone. Either way, it didn’t matter to me, just as long as we got in the end zone.”

On flashing the money sign after his touchdown:

“The crowd was great tonight. I thought they were extremely electric. That’s for those guys. It’s not for me.”

On where the offense is now, two weeks away from the opener:

“It’s growing. I think we are putting in more and continuing to get better. If you look at whatever group we put in there, I think, week by week, we are continuing to get better and better. That’s an improvement, and we need to continue to get better and better as the weeks go on.”

On the possibility of have a two­­­-quarterback system:

“I feel like any way I can help contribute to this team, whether it’s looking at a certain coverage, looking at something during the game, or getting in the game and having a certain package during the game, just anything that I can do to help this offense to win games that’s the position I’m in and that’s all I really want to do.”

On the quarterback competition being over and now feeling looser and being able to play more Johnny like:

“I don’t think it was to be more ‘Johnny’. I think it was let it loose and forget whatever happens. Throw the ball and be decisive. I thought I did a better job of that tonight. It was better for me.”

On what he saw on his touchdown run:

“We were trying to work the tight end and kind of got smothered up. As I stepped up, I was just trying to dump it off underneath to the route that was coming towards me. As I did that, the backer kind of squeezed and left a big hole. I just had to make a quick decision and go for it and I luckily got in.”

PODCAST – TALKING HOYER-MANZIEL ON FOX SPORTS RADIO WITH JAY MOHR 8-20-14

Here’s my conversation talking Browns, Brian Hoyer and Johnny Manziel with Jay Mohr on his national radio show on Fox Sports Radio on Wednesday, August 20, 2014.

Jay Mohr 2

 

JOHNNY MANZIEL REACTS TO HOYER BEING NAMED THE STARTER

Johnny Manziel Sideline Throw

On his initial reaction to Head Coach Mike Pettine’s decision to name the season’s starting QB:

“It’s obviously disappointing but at the same time I said this from day one from the very first day I got here is that don’t let this competition overcome anything, just come out and try to get better. I feel if I would have (come) out and played better it would have been a different outcome. I don’t think that I played terrible but didn’t really do anything to jump off of the page. I think I made strides and got better throughout the training camp and that’s what I wanted to do. It’s disappointing but at the same time I want what’s best for this team moving forward and I’m going to continue to come out here every day and give my all and continue to get better as a quarterback. That’s all I can do.”

On whether there was any anger shown in his disappointment:

“No…at the same time, I need to get ready to play whenever that is. I wouldn’t say that there was anger; there was no reason to be angry. It was a fair chance on both sides and they went with who they thought was right for the first week. For me I know that football is a game of crazy things and anything can happen so I need to practice and perform like I will be playing.”

On whether he would have done anything differently leading up to the decision:

“Not a single thing. There’s nothing that I would’ve changed, nothing that I would’ve done differently. If I would’ve gone out and made some plays in the last two weeks than it could have been a different outcome but no I don’t feel that I would’ve gone back and done anything differently.”

On the difference in playbooks between the NFL and Texas A&M University:

“It’s exactly what I thought it would be. I knew it would be a big step. I obviously didn’t know exactly what it entailed, but I knew that it would be a big jump for me, a big learning process and the thing is people have really followed me since I already established myself at (Texas)  A&M. If people would have seen me my first year at A&M they would’ve said no way this kid could get to where I’m at today. People don’t understand that my first year-and-a-half at A&M I was terrible. I would’ve never gotten to this point if I played like did that first year-and-a-half. I just continued to try and get better, learn the playbook, got more comfortable around everybody around the coaches with the system and then good things happened for me.”

On how he’ll get better during the season without taking game reps:

“I’m still getting plenty of reps that I’m getting at practice and I think that I need to make every opportunity that I have throughout the season count. Whether its practice, whether it’s getting a chance to get in the game, whatever it is, take mental reps. See, for me I still need to learn how to prepare for an NFL week. I haven’t even got a chance to do that yet. These are preseason games; they’re not pouring time in our opponent like we will in a regular season game so there’s still a lot for me to go through, a lot for me to experience, and a lot for me to learn.”

On whether the decision on the starting quarterback to start the season makes him more focused to become the starter:

“I think, obviously like I said, it’s disappointing off the bat and I think that it does. I need to get better and I need to try and speed up that process up as much as I can. The season is getting here so you never know when your number can be called throughout the season. For me I know I just need to continue to learn and to continue to adapt to anything that’s thrown my way.”

On whether it lights his fire to compete:

“I wouldn’t say necessarily. It’s disappointing, I didn’t want this to be the outcome but at the same time, I didn’t necessarily feel like I was ready. I felt like there were steps that I needed to take, and I need to take, to get better. Down the road as the weeks continue to go on I think that it will get better. So, does it light a fire? I don’t really know if it does or not.”

On whether he consciously tried to resist the urge to scramble and run:

“No.”

On whether Pettine gave him a possible timeframe when he might play in the future:

“I think that I need to earn everything for me to get in. I need to earn it. I need to earn my place in this offense if there is place for me in that, with whatever packages – whatever could come down the road but I need to earn everything. Nothing should be given to me and I completely understand that. I need to continue to come in here every day, day-in and day-out, and get better, be around these guys and continue to let them know who I am and how I am. That’s all I can really do.”

On if Pettine explained his decision to him:

“No. (He) said that they were going with (QB Brain Hoyer) and to make the most of every rep that I’m given and the time that I have in this building and just get better, that’s all that I need to do. I know that and he didn’t need to come in and say that for me to know what I need to do going forward. I’m smart enough to know that I didn’t play to the best of my abilities the last week and I need to get better. That’s really it.”

On whether watching from the sidelines once the regular season starts help him with his development:

“I think that it will be great. Like I said, when I first got to A&M, if people would’ve seen me they would have said no way this guy goes on to do what I’ve done in the past two – three years. For me, sitting back, I remember a time when I was at A&M and I had to sit there and redshirt. It was hard, it was frustrating but at the same time a got a lot better in that year-and-a-half that I had to sit, learn and watch. Whenever my number is called and whenever it’s my time, I’ll be ready.”

On evaluating what steps he needed to take to possibly be ready against the Pittsburgh Steelers as a starter:

“I’m not sure, I just know that you don’t go from playing two years in college to playing two preseason games and then saying that you can come out and play the Pittsburgh Steelers and their defense. It just doesn’t happen that way. I don’t think that should’ve have been much of a shock that I wasn’t necessarily ready. It was a game into the preseason now we’re going into our third preseason game (and) better, fourth preseason game get better and as the season continues to go on get better in practice, get better in each and every day. That’s all you can do.”

On any words or thoughts shared with QB Brian Hoyer being named the starting quarterback:

“Me and Brian really didn’t talk much about it. It was a competition, good for Brian though. He’s a hometown guy, a guy that’s been around this area for a long time. I know that (with) me being (from) Texas – a Texas job like that would mean the world to me, so props to him.”

On what he’s learned about the speed of the NFL game during the preseason:

“It’s faster, it’s the NFL. It’s extremely fast and you have to be decisive and quick with your decisions.”

On forgetting the Monday Night Football game and refocusing:

“I think that you learn from it and move on. I don’t think you flush it. I think there are good things to be learned from that game. Whenever your offense isn’t moving the ball you’re kind of getting stuck and you have to learn what you’re doing wrong and figure out how to fix it. That’s what you have to do.”

On whether he learned anything from getting sacked during Monday night’s game:

“Yeah, I didn’t even really notice that. I was trying to get through my progressions on the first sack it just kind of broke down and I really didn’t notice it. There are going to be lanes somewhere, you just have to be able to find them and I need to be able to do a better job of that if I am going to take off.”

On whether he would do anything differently based on the factors of the coaches decision:

“No. I think I will continue to learn how the season goes. I learn how things go and next time I come into training camp I won’t be surprised by it next time that I come into OTAs I won’t be surprised by it. But to say I wouldn’t go back after the draft to now and change a single thing. I’m going to continue to live my life and the offseason is the offseason. I’m going to travel places I’m going to go places and do things and that’s going to have no effect. Obviously, I need to do it in the proper way but I’m still going to continue to have fun in my life and to live my life. I don’t think that any of that slowed me in this competition. I think that more than anything if you come out and play well, it makes the decision a lot easier. If you don’t, then it (clouds it up) and what happened-happened.”

On whether he thinks that the spotlight on him will lesson with him not starting at this time:

“I mean I’m the back-up quarterback I shouldn’t be in the spotlight. Who knows if that will actually be the case, but it would be nice. I don’t think it’s going to happen though.”

On rookie quarterbacks starting immediately in the NFL:

“It doesn’t mean anything, you don’t have to come in from your first day of your rookie season and play right away. You don’t have to do that. There’s no exact guideline to how this process works with young quarterbacks. You’ve seen it each and every different way. Some ways it works, some ways it doesn’t. So I think it’s all about that person in that situation and how you handle your time with the scout team, how you handle your time with the (second team) how you handle your time not getting those reps. You need to get them some way whether it’s mentally, watching the film, whatever it may be. It’s all about how you react to the decision that was made today. For me, I need to continue to do what I need to do to get better as football player and get smarter and learn more about the game and really make the most of the situations that I have. Control what I can control and I think that everything will work out fine for me.”

 

TRANSCRIPT OF MIKE PETTINE’S PRESS CONFERENCE ANNOUNCING HOYER AS THE BROWNS STARTING QUARTERBACK

Mike Pettine Post-Game Close Up

On how much he hopes this decision will ease whatever burden might have been on QB Brian Hoyer during this whole competition:

“Yeah, I think that’s part of it. I think he’s handled it well. I think if you asked him, there was some stress there, but that’s part of football. We want to distress our guys. We wanted to put them in tough situations. We talk to the team all the time about mental toughness and dealing with adverse conditions. That was something that they went through and had to deal with, and I think it will only make them stronger.”

On if he thinks everyone underestimated how much stress was put on Hoyer between battling for the starting job and trying to come back from injury:

“I think the injury was a big part of it. I mean, he’s really – he hasn’t had that many true reps with a live pass-rush. I think anybody – it took (WR) Travis (Benjamin) some time to get back, (WR) Charles (Johnson) some time to really start to feel it. I don’t think it’s any different at the quarterback spot.”

On how much more pressure is on guys when you go ahead and open it up into a competition as opposed to if you had named a starter back in June and if that pressure is real when guys are going through this:

“I think it is. That’s a big part of football is dealing with an adverse situation or a competitive one. We don’t ever want a guy to feel like, ‘Hey, I’m good.’ There’s no better motivating force in all of athletics than pure competition. I think that guys get a chance to kind of see where they are. When the heat is on, you see how guys react to it.”

On if there’s any indication on Hoyer’s film that his knee is affecting his throwing:

“I don’t see it.”

On if he thinks Hoyer’s knee affects him mentally or psychologically:

“That’s something you’ll have to ask him, and maybe it’s a subconscious thing. I’m not sure. The injury didn’t occur in the pocket. I don’t know how much there is to that, and I’m not sure how he would answer that.”

On if he told the quarterbacks his decision himself:

“I told them this morning.”

On how QB Johnny Manziel took the news:

“As expected.”

On what that means:

“He’s a competitor. He wants to be out there, but he knows there are some things he needs to work on and it’s his job to press on and prepare every week as if he’s the starter. I think that’s on anybody that’s not in the starting position. They have to take that approach. I don’t care whether it’s a quarterback, a corner, a defensive lineman. They have to put themselves in that position to take those reps as the starter whether it’s mentally or physically. Physically, there will be fewer reps. I think he really has to dial in on the mental part, but he knows the task that’s ahead of him.”

On how he thinks Hoyer handled the pressure:

“I think he had a lot going on. We’ll see how things are for him now. I think maybe there’s some sense of relief or some re-found confidence. I just think he was dealing with a lot coming into camp where he was a hometown guy and was the starter, but he had a draft pick competing with him. Then, certainly we’ve already discussed it here, there’s just coming off the injury. I think that’s a lot on a young guy’s plate.”

On how, from the outside looking in, statistically, he didn’t handle it very well:

“Well statistically, I think I don’t get wrapped up in the numbers there. I think he had some drops that you could factor in, some routes that were run at the wrong depth, at the wrong angle. It’s easy to look at the numbers. I think when you look at the tape, it tells a very different picture.”

On if he could sense relief from the team that they finally know who the starting quarterback is:

“I couldn’t sense it when I announced it to the team this morning. There wasn’t anything that you could sense at that time, but yeah, I’m sure when you talk to the guys that will likely factor in.”

On if they seemed any more in sync on the practice field today:

“Today was our first day not in pads and I thought they handled it well. I thought we had good energy after coming off of a day off. I think we’ll go in the same format tomorrow because we showed we can still have a productive practice and not be in pads. I think, given the short week, we want to keep our energy up. I think that’s important to be able to practice like that. I thought we had a positive day. I think you can attribute it to a number of things.”

On why he ultimately decided to end the competition now instead of let it play out until after the next preseason game:

“Because of the reason before where I had kind of targeted this week. We wanted to have a starter in place because there’s no substitution for live game reps with the guys that you’re going to be playing with. There’s so many plays that involve being on the same page. If you never got a chance to practice them together, and more importantly, be in a game situation together, I think you’re doing yourself a disservice. We wanted to make sure it was – because I talked before when we announced that it would be a competition – finding that sweet spot between if you do it too early then they really didn’t compete at all and if you do it too late, you run the risk of now nobody is ready for the opener and you don’t have cohesion, chemistry, things that I’ve talked about. That’s why we had targeted it and felt when we met last night that we had enough information to go ahead.”

On if he would have done anything differently looking back:

“I know there are a lot of different ways to do it. This is the way that we chose. I think ultimately it depends on – because we’re all judged here on wins and losses – how it plays out. As far as coming up with a plan, formulating the plan and executing the plan and this is how we want to do it, I feel confident with it. I’m not going to sit here and say, ‘Yeah, I regret doing it at this point.’ I know when you looked at the game, it’s easy for people to say, ‘Well, they can’t get in a rhythm because they’re not out there.’ That’s something that – we wanted to put them in tough situations and see how they handle it. I know there are a lot of different ways to do things, but we were confident in our plan and we stuck to it.”

On Hoyer’s leash and if there will be a package for Manziel or is this Hoyer’s job:

“No, this is Brian’s job. This is Brian’s job and I never think of it as a leash or we want a guy to be a game manager. We want him to be confident and go out and play. People looked at our roster. We’ve added running backs. We looked to improve the offensive line. We want to be a well-rounded all-weather offense. We need to be productive. You can’t have one without the other. I think you have to be productive in all phases. I think it starts with the run and it starts with pass protections, but I don’t want our guys on offense to feel like there’s any type of governor there and they can’t just cut it loose and be aggressive. I think when you feel like you’re going to be solid on defense, that allows you to be even more aggressive on offense.”

On if he thinks if Manziel would have dedicated himself to sticking around the facility after the draft and working, he would have had a better chance at the starting job:

“I don’t question his dedication. I don’t. He made tremendous strides from an x’s and o’s standpoint from the time he left here after the, I think it was the rookie symposium, until the time he came back. I know there’s been a lot of discussion about his activity, but he clearly studied and studied a lot and came back significantly ahead of where he was when he left.”

On what comes next on the development of this team now that he has the quarterback situation settled:

“Chemistry is a big part of it – getting guys out, playing together, starting to narrow the package down to fit what we do well and then start to get a little more opponent specific. We’ll do that this weekend with the Saint Louis game. Then you’re always kind of looking at the season in chucks. We did some good work as a staff in the offseason on Pittsburgh and New Orleans and Baltimore. I think it’s getting to the point now with camp broken, where we need to go ahead and start to look ahead to that first part of the season.”

On if he’ll have a package for Manziel:

“I was already asked that.”

On not being present when the question was asked:

“It was asked while you were standing here. Didn’t you ask me that? No. The plays that he would run if he got into the game would be more suited to him, but I don’t foresee us now, especially early, being in a two-quarterback system.”

On if Manziel will play sometime this year:

“Give me a crystal ball. I’ll tell you that answer. The NFL season is so long. So much can happen. We don’t ever want our player – and I’ve talked about this already about the quarterbacks – we don’t want Brian looking over his shoulder thinking, ‘Hey, if I make one bad throw, I’m out.’ Over time if you feel you need to make a change – and it’s not just at quarterback; it’ll be at other positions as well. You have guys that you have penciled in who you’re hopeful can be that guy for you the whole year, but that rarely works out in the league. Time will only tell. You could foresee a scenario where he doesn’t play this year, and then there are other scenarios that are absolutely possible as well. It’s hard to tell.”

On if he’s figured out watching the tape why some of Hoyer’s throws have been inaccurate:

“Nothing from a true mechanical standpoint. Those guys would be able to answer that best. I just think they were two throws – I don’t know whether it was a case where he over-strided. The (WR Andrew) Hawkins one is tough because he was so explosive out of the break that Brian threw it to a spot and ‘Hawk’ (Hawkins) was so fast getting out of the break that he essentially over ran it. Brian knows, lesson learned, that Hawk is a guy who’s going to eat up some ground in a hurry. The plus is he’s going to be open. The minus is that it’s a tougher target to hit.”

On if his receivers are getting open enough:

“We are. I think we can get better. That’s part of having an inexperienced group in the system. I think we made strides with that in camp, and then hopefully we’ll take another step with that this weekend. We told our guys at halftime at the Washington game that we need to make plays. The NFL is about making plays. Our guys have to realize that – that somebody’s got to step up and we’ve got to put it all together. Whether it’s a quarterback making it, a running back making it, whatever it is, offensive football especially, is about guys making plays.”

On making a permanent commitment to a starter:

“No, I don’t want to make a permanent commitment to any starter. I just don’t think you can do that. I think you make more of a commitment to your quarterback because of circumstances that surround that position, but I think you need all your guys on your roster running scared a little bit that, ‘Hey listen, if I don’t perform – this is a performance based business – if I don’t perform, I’m not going to be in here.’”

On if he has any other positions that have been settled that he’d like to name:

“Yeah, the other ones we feel like we can kind of job-share a little bit. I thought (DB Justin) Gilbert played extremely well the other night. There was one coverage where I thought he played off a little bit too much, but I think for the most part, for his first time out there, he had a great look about him. He took the field. He was confident. He was smiling for a lot of the game. Sometimes rookies get that ‘dear in the headlights’ look. He didn’t have that at all. We haven’t decided yet. It’s a little bit uncertain with (DB) Buster (Skrine’s) injury, but Justin will likely be the starter on day one. I think (LB Chris) Kirksey and (LB Craig) Robertson have both earned a spot on this defense, so I think they’ll really both be starters based on what package we’re in. It really depends on what personnel group the opponent’s in.”

On who will start at right guard:

“You could say (OL John) Greco at this point. I think the starting five on the o-line has been solid for a while.”

On if he was happy with the running game last week:

“I thought we ran a little better. I thought (RB Ben) Tate showed up a little bit more. He averaged five yards per carry. There were a couple, you know, there was one four-yard run he turned into a seven-yard run. I thought that was good. (RB Terrance) West has done some good things. He’s learning. I think that competition is still wide open for that third running back spot.”

NEITHER HOYER OR MANZIEL DESERVE TO START

Brian Hoyer had a chance to lock up the starting quarterback job with just a halfway decent performance against an average at best Washington defense and he failed miserably.Brian Hoyer In Game Close Up

Hoyer had a chance to get the Browns in the end zone for the first time in a family day scrimmage and two preseason games and couldn’t do it. Hoyer missed a wide open Andrew Hawkins in the end zone in the second quarter. The pass sailed behind Hawkins, off his fingertips and to the ground, incomplete.

On the play before, Hoyer put a pass in the redzone right on the numbers to Josh Gordon on a quick slant and he promptly dropped it. So when Hoyer does throw a good pass, the receivers drop it. When the receivers are wide open, Hoyer has missed them badly the last two weeks.

In 2 preseason games Hoyer is a combined 8 for 20 for 108 yards with 0 touchdowns and 0 interceptions. His QB rating in the preseason is 57.9.

Johnny Manziel In Game Close UpSo Hoyer’s poor performance gave Johnny Manziel an opportunity to steal the job away from the St. Ignatius grad, but like the receivers, Manziel dropped that chance. He too missed receivers who were open and is finding out that he won’t be able to escape onrushing first team defenders in the NFL as easily as he did in college.

The two quarterbacks who are battling for the starting job combined to go 4 for 13 in the first half for 45 yards, with 2 sacks and just 3 points against Washington’s first team defense for the most part.

Mike Pettine may need 2 more preseason games to determine who deserves to be his starting QB. I thought for sure it was Brian Hoyer’s job, and if you’re forcing me to pick one, I’d probably still go with Hoyer. However I am less sure now then I was 24 hours ago.

There is one thing I do know for sure is currently the Browns don’t have a legitimate starting quarterback right now and the wide receivers still stink. That’s not a good combination when you’re just  three weeks away from your regular season opener!

TOP 10 THINGS THAT I NEED TO SEE FROM THE BROWNS IN THE GAME AGAINST WASHINGTON

 

Brian Hoyer Drop Back Throw1) The Browns offense needs to score a touchdown against the Redskins first team defense.

2) Brian Hoyer has to step up and take the starting quarterback job.

3) Johnny Manziel staying in the pocket and going through his progressions instead of being a one read and then run QB.

4) Whoever plays wide receiver, do your job and “CATCH THE DAMN BALL”!

5) The Browns defensive front seven has to put pressure on the quarterback.

6) Cut down on the penalties, especially on defense.

7) Miles Austin and Jordan Cameron play, make plays on offense and don’t get hurt.

8) For first round pick Justin Gilbert to impact the game like other top draft picks Blake Bortles, Jadeveon Clowney and Ryan Shazier did this weekend.

9) Ben Tate to maintain his 4.0 yards per carry average, but more importantly, don’t fumble the football.

10) For the defense to prove they can shut down someone’s offense other than their own!

BRIAN HOYER POST-PRACTICE PRESS CONFERENCE TRANSCRIPT 8-16-14

Brian Hoyer In Game Throw

On if this game feels like it has the importance of a regular season game considering the QB competition:

“I play every game like it’s a regular season game. There’s no way to go about it other than that. I think the moment you think it’s just a preseason game is the moment you’re not prepared mentally, and all of the sudden something sneaks up on you and you’re losing 14-0 in the first quarter. I prepare every game, whether it’s preseason or regular season, like I’m going to play the whole game until that coach pulls me out. You’ve got to be prepared to play a football game. Those guys aren’t going to hold back on the other side. That’s for sure. You’ve just got to be prepared like you would in a normal situation. Obviously you don’t go into the game planning and things like that, but it’s still football. It’s like going against our defense every day. You never know what you’re going to get, but you go out there and react and play the best you can.”

On if the QB competition makes this preseason game against Washington crucial:

“Every game is crucial. For me, it doesn’t change the way I prepare. Like I said, the thing I try to do is come out and be the best quarterback I can every day. I’m going to do the same thing on Monday night.”

On if the way he played in Detroit gives him more confidence that everything is working right going into this game:

“I think if anything, the confidence part comes back from playing 10 months after surgery. That’s the way I look at it. I don’t feel any more confident because of how things – that game is in the past. We’re trying to build, learn from those mistakes and then improve and go against Washington this Monday.”

On Head Coach Mike Pettine saying that he’s going to continue to evaluate the QB position throughout the season instead of picking a QB to be the definite starter all year:

“I think the best quarterback should play regardless of the situation. It’s a situation I dealt with last year when I came in and we kind of said it was a week to week thing. For me, I just want to be the starting quarterback of this team whatever the situation is.”

On if he feels like he has been the best QB in this training camp:

“I think I’ve played well. I think I can play a lot better. There’s no doubt about that. I think we’re always trying to improve, and for us, I think things are coming up quick now. I talked a couple of weeks ago about how training camp, those days are long. Now, today is technically the last day of training camp. We play Monday, and then we come around and play Saturday. I think for me, I’m just trying to take big improvements every day to the point where you’re trying to play everything perfectly. Obviously, we’re going to try and go out and be perfect. Our team is pretty good too. You just try to go out and improve all the time. I think every day you come out, you either get better or you get worse. There’s no in between. Am I satisfied with how I play? I think I’ve played well, but I can play a lot better.”

On QB Johnny Manziel saying that he’s not ready to face the Pittsburgh Steelers yet and if he feels that he’s ready:

“Yeah, I think so far, I’m focused on Washington right now. I think for me, like I said, we’re moving along. We’re trying to get better. We’re improving every day. We had a good red zone period today, which is a good sign because that’s where we kind of fell off a little bit against Detroit. (Pittsburgh) is so far from what I’m thinking about right now. I’m just worried about improving. Hopefully we can take what we did in practice today into the game. Then you evaluate that game. Then you move on. There’s a lot of time in between now and then.”

On the fact that he’s the starting QB for the game against Washington, but ESPN is promoting this game as Redskins’ QB Robert Griffin III vs. Johnny Manziel and what that makes him think:

“I don’t watch ESPN so until you just told me that, I didn’t know. It doesn’t matter. It doesn’t matter because what matters is what Coach Pettine thinks and what (offensive coordinator) Kyle (Shanahan) thinks. The media can make any story they want. Like I said, I avoid all of that. When it comes down to it, they’re not the ones making the decisions.”

On if when he was a rookie, he imagined the possibility if Patriots’ QB Tom Brady got hurt, he would have to think about being a starting quarterback as a rookie:

“Well, that was my responsibility so yes. Looking back on it now, would I be the player I am today? It’s not even close, but I think I attribute my time in New England as learning football in light-years. I think I learned more in my first year there than I learned in my entire career about the game of football – not just offense and quarterback play, but defenses, how to attack, things like that. I can’t speak for other rookies. I know I was probably a little bit further behind than most rookies. I mean, I was undrafted, apparently for a reason, so I think I’m a much better pro player than I was in college. I can honestly say that. In college, I can understand why people maybe overlooked me.”

On if the new offense has been more challenging than he expected mentally:

“No, I don’t think so. Like anything, there are nuances to certain things. I think I mentioned this to you guys. I can’t remember when, but there are certain plays where it’s a similar play to what I’ve run before, but we’re teaching it differently or we’re reading it differently or we’re reading it different. Sometimes I’ve got to shut that out of my head and just listen to Kyle and (quarterbacks coach) Dowell (Loggains) and say, ‘This is how they want it done. Just do it that way. Don’t revert to old habits.’  I think things like that – we really talk about footwork here more so than any place I’ve been. For me, that’s something I’m always trying to improve on because I tend to get tall and stiff legged sometimes, so I try to keep a more athletic base. Like I said, there’s always room to improve. Any time you’re not coming out of the game with 100-percent completion and touchdowns right and left, there’s always room to improve.”

On if he thinks the decision on who starts Week 1 is going to come down to Monday night:

“You’d have to ask Coach Pettine about that.”

On if he’s already started to see the benefits of having QB Rex Grossman here:

“Yeah, for me, I think that it’s great. Learning it from a coach is great because they’re telling you, ‘OK, watch this film,’ but Rex has played in the system. Like even today, on a play I had back there I was like, ‘On that play, have you ever come off and worried about a back side corner?’ Then he’s like, ‘No, you know, it’s not…,’ so to have a guy that’s played the position in this system is huge for not just me, but the entire room because he can relate it from a playing level. I think there’s a big difference between someone who’s played in it and someone who’s coaching it.”

On if he ever wondered why they didn’t sign Grossman in May:

“When I first met him, I said, ‘I thought you’d be here a lot sooner.’ If anything, for me, it’s another guy to lean on. Like I said, it’s always good to talk to the coach about it, but sometimes when you’ve got a guy who’s actually played and been in there when the live bullets are firing, it’s always good to see his perspective on things.”

On if he got enough practice time in New England or if Brady wanted all the snaps:

“Yeah, there were times when I got thrown out of the huddle by Tom, but training camp is training camp for everyone so you’d always get a lot of reps. Then like any other place, once the season rolls around, the starter needs to take the reps. That really prepared me as a player to take a lot of mental reps.”

On if it’s been hard for him to deal with the fact that it seems like Manziel will be the starter for this team inevitably at some point:

“I haven’t heard that so no, not really.”

On if he’s doing things now to get his body ready to play 16 games if he is the starter:

“Yeah, there’s the maintenance of my knee. Obviously, it’s almost a daily process where it’s kind of a rotation. Sometimes you see me out there doing band drop-backs to build up my leg and core in the movements that I’ll be doing in the game. Other days it’s with the lifting. Other days with ART, massage, things like that. It’s kind of crazy for me. I was always a guy who never had to do anything because I’d never been hurt. Now, I’ve kind of done a complete 180 where I’m constantly doing something to maintain strength, flexibility, all those things because sometimes when you have an injury, it exposes some weaknesses you might have. We’ve really done a good job of trying to stay on top of that.”

On if playing Monday night on national TV adds excitement to the QB competition:

“For me, I don’t really look at it. This whole situation, I think, has brought a lot of attention to our team and to our city, which I think it’s always a good thing, but I’m so far removed from that, that it’s not even a concern of mine.”

On if he’s at all surprised that he’s starting the second game:

“No, I think it’s what I’ve expected all along. Really, it wouldn’t have changed my approach either way. I think I approach my job this year a little bit differently because I can be more vocal. I don’t want to step on anybody’s toes, but in the past, I’ve always prepared like I was a starter. Those decisions are out of my control and I just kind of do what I’m told.”

On if he had any reaction to the gossip about him potentially being traded after the Grossman signing:

“I didn’t. I was told about it later. I guess people are trying to connect the dots. That’s (the media’s) job to do that, but for me, I’m not concerned about anything like that. I’m looking forward to being the starting quarterback here.”

MIKE PETTINE POST PRACTICE PRESS CONFERENCE TRANSCRIPT FOR 8-15-14

Mike Pettine Game Sideline Photo

On the fan reaction at training camp so far:

“It’s been tremendous. I came here and the fans had a certain reputation. You kind of sense it from the outside – the passion, the loyalty. They just proved it over the course of training camp. I think we averaged the most fans the Browns have ever had for training camp. You can just sense the enthusiasm. It’s something I think is going to be huge for our guys. We want the Dawg Pound to bring back the days of old when home-field advantage will truly be a home-field advantage. You look at what Seattle has been able to do with the 12th man. If we go out there and are playing good football and give our fans something to cheer about, they’ll be among the loudest in the league.”

On how the ice bath was from participating in the ALS Ice Bucket Challenge:

“I got lucky. I’m sure when you review the tape I was braced for it, and I think the buckets, because they were filled with ice, were a little bit heavy for the guys to lift. I got some down the back which was refreshing. It was good. It’s for a great cause. I do want to go ahead and put the challenge out there to the (ESPN) Monday Night (Football) crew, especially (MNF commentator) Mike Tirico and (MNF analyst) Jon Gruden. I know they’ll appreciate it. I was around (Baltimore Ravens senior advisor to play development) O.J. Brigance, who was afflicted with ALS, in Baltimore. He’s just an amazing person, and I just think it’s for a great cause.”

On how he’s going to use the QBs this week:

“It’s hard to say. I know a report came out about how we’re going to use them series-wise. To me, it’s more we want to make sure we get the reps balanced. I think it’s hard to go every other series, so we’ll just have a pretty good feel. If the first drive is a long one, there’s a chance we can go ahead and make the switch, but I don’t want to back myself into any commitment on it’s going to be this or it’s going to be that. The goal is, as I’ve stated, that at the end of the half, we want to have those reps close to equal.”

On why QB Johnny Manziel isn’t starting if the reps are going to be equal:

“Because that’s the decision we made. We’re making our decisions based on the information we have based on the body of work. That’s what we decided to do.”

On if Manziel hasn’t earned the right to start:

“No, it’s just something where there were a lot of factors involved. Ultimately when we hashed it out, that’s the direction we went.”

On if he’d like to see Manziel against the Washington Redskins’ first team defense:

“Yeah, and I’m expecting, it being the second preseason game, that they’re going to extend their starters into the second quarter if not until the half. I know I don’t have control over when their guys are out there, but I’m confident that he’ll get some work against their ones.”

On if he thinks anything can happen in the quarterback competition despite the fact that QB Brian Hoyer is starting this game:

“All of our options are still on the table. I think a lot of people read into what happened. Every option for us is still on the table.”

On how much leadership ability, maturity and off-the-field behavior will weigh into the decision on quarterbacks:

“I don’t know if I can say, ‘Hey, this is the amount,’ but it does. You’re looking for the whole package – the quarterback who’s best suited to take the field and lead this team to a win against the (Pittsburgh) Steelers. That’s the bottom-line decision that we have to make. There will be a lot of things that go into it.”

On if Manziel can still win the job and what does he have to do:

“Sure he can. Like I said, all of our options are still on the table. He just needs to go out and play. That’s the bottom line. They both do. I’ve met with both of them and discussed the situation. They’re both comfortable with it, and they both know it’s going to be up to them when they’re out there to just go out and do their job. You never want a guy to try and do too much and come out of structure in order to accomplish something. We keep preaching to our guys, ‘Do your job and good things will happen.’”

On if he’s disappointed that Hoyer hasn’t separated himself from Manziel and run away with the competition:

“I don’t think so. I think they both started camp at a certain point and they both made improvement. They’ve both made big strides. When you look at it, and I mentioned it last week, we feel like we’re in a good position. We have two quarterbacks who we feel have NFL starter ability. That’s why it’ll be a difficult decision. I don’t see it as a disappointment that one hasn’t distinguished himself over the other.”

On hoping that someone makes the decision easy based on their play:

“You hope. That might not necessarily be the case, but a decision still has to be made.”

On if he thinks, aside from the quarterbacks, that he knows enough to have his 22 starters in place after the second preseason game:

“We’re hopeful. We are hopeful. I think a lot of them are close. That’s always good when you have that depth, but we’ll lean towards one guy or the other. In the position of (DB Justin) Gilbert and (DB Buster) Skrine, I think that that’s a position where you can kind of job-share a little bit, but we’ll have to decide on a starter; same with (LB Craig) Robertson and (LB Chris) Kirksey. We’ve already talked about how they’re both playing well. That adds to their team value if they’re kind of balancing the reps out there or basically going by package.”

On if he anticipates making a decision on quarterback on Tuesday:

“Yeah, that should be the target date. Something unforeseen could come up, but we’re hopeful. I do want to see if I can cut the quarterback questions down by about 90-percent after next week (laughter). The chemistry and the continuity, I think it’s important to establish that.”

On who will make that decision:

“It’ll be a group of us. It’ll be (quarterbacks coach) Dowell (Loggains), (offensive coordinator) Kyle (Shanahan). We might involve (General Manager) Ray (Farmer) just to kind of listen and observe. There might be another guy or two in there.”

On what Owner Jimmy Haslam has said about the quarterbacks:

“We talk about it, but it’s just more of an update. He goes around. He’ll talk to Kyle. He’ll talk to Dowell. He just doesn’t talk to those guys. He kind of gets an assessment at every position. He likes to talk to the coordinators about their side of the ball. Usually, I’m just echoing what the other guys are saying. He’s a big fan. He wants to know. You can tell he’s passionate about his team. He wants to know what’s going on and he asks the right questions.”

On the story about Halsam having something to do with the drafting of Manziel and being the type of guy who would influence this decision:

“That falls into the ‘stories’ category. I think that made for good press on the draft, but even before the draft started, he came in and said ‘Hey, have a great day, and I’ll be behind you whatever pick you make.’ He wanted the information. He wanted to know when we stocked the board, why. He wanted to know about the players, not just the quarterbacks. Then he sat back and let Ray work.”

On if Manziel was late for a meeting and if that’s a big deal:

“That’s internal business. Moving forward, I’m not going to discuss matters and stuff that happens that’s team business. We like to keep stuff in the family. It’s unfortunate that that report came out, but I’m not going to confirm or deny it. I’m also not going to be in the habit of discussing anything internal.”

On if he views the quarterback decision as a long term one or more of a short term starter:

“I think quarterback is different from other positions. You do want to make a commitment. I don’t know if you can necessarily make a permanent commitment. So much could change over the course of an NFL season – the circumstances, but I think that’s the one position where you probably have to have a little bit more patience than maybe some others as far as if a guy isn’t performing to the level you think he can and you’re not getting the results, you would go ahead and make a move. I would say it’s somewhere in between. I don’t want whoever the starter is to feel like, ‘Oh, if I make one mistake I’m out.’ I also don’t want him to feel like, ‘Hey, I’ve achieved something. This is my team for the year.’”

On how close Manziel has come to being a model citizen in terms of committing to football:

“I think his play has demonstrated that – during the break, how he studied the IPad. He’d dial up with the right questions, and then he’s come in much more polished in and out of the huddle. That curve that I’ve already talked about, we feel like he’s a little bit ahead of the learning curve as far as being able to call the play, knowing what that play means, what are the reads on the play, who’s primary, what’s the defense, where do I go with the ball. I think he’s ahead of where we expected him to be.”

On if he knows what happened to Skrine:

“I think it was something with his thumb, but I haven’t gotten the final report yet from (head athletic trainer) Joe (Sheehan).

On who have been out of practice this week will be out for the game:

“(DL) ‘Des’ (Desmond Bryant) will definitely be out. (WR) Josh (Gordon) still has a chance. Who’s the last one? (WR) Nate (Burleson)? It’s not looking good for Nate to go.”

On if Desmond Bryant’s injury is serious:

“No, he’s just waiting – it’s more of a procedural thing – he’s waiting to get another opinion.”

On if TE Jordan Cameron will go on Monday:

“He should be able to go and same with (TE) MarQueis Gray.”

PODCAST – BROWNS QUESTION MARKS

As the Browns head into their second preseason game against the Redskins, there are four big questions marks that I’m hoping to get answers to on Monday night in Washington. Here’s what they are…….

Johnny Manziel In Game Huddle