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MIKE PETTINE FEELS NO NEED TO BABY-SIT JOHNNY MANZIEL ON THE WEEKENDS

Browns head coach Mike Pettine was asked today after practice if Johnny Manziel makes him aware of his weekend plans:

“No, because I told him I didn’t feel like he had to come to me every time he was going to leave town. The philosophy here is we’re not going to micromanage the guys. I was involved in an event this weekend that if there were some cameras at certain times, it probably wouldn’t have been the most flattering. It was a group of coaches out. We had a good time, but we were responsible. When it becomes irresponsible or becomes part of something that involves breaking the law or something that we feel is a potential problem, we’ll step in. (Browns player engagement director) Jamil Northcutt does a great job and (Browns player engagement assistant) Russell Maryland with the rookie programs educating those guys. We’re going to bring in speakers for those, not just the rookies, but the whole team just to kind of talk about all the potential issues off the field – everything from financial issues to drugs to alcohol to try to do our best to educate those guys so they make great choices when they’re out of the building.”

Mike Pettine

I have been saying the exact same thing for weeks now and I’m happy to hear Pettine say it as well. The Browns, fans and media should be more worried about what Josh Gordon does away from the field and not Johnny Manziel. Gordon has been in trouble with the league and the law. Johnny Manziel has not.

Kudos to coach Pettine. If Manziel’s off the field extracuricular activities affect him as a player or they become a  problem for the team, then the Browns should and will step in and say something or do something. But until that happens, to me, and it sounds like for Mike Pettine and the Browns, what Johnny Football has done off the field on his free weekends hasn’t been a problem.

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BROWNS HC- MIKE PETTINE ON JOSH GORDON AND HIS QB’S DURING THIS WEEK’S OTAs 6-3-14

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On if he talked with Browns WR Josh Gordon about his traffic stop or if there was any team discipline because of it:
“That’s a club issue right now. We’re not going to make any comments on his current situation.”

On whether Gordon’s recent traffic stop is troubling:
“I just think any time there’s issues off the field, regardless of the player, it can be if it’s a pattern.”

On if Gordon has been engaged in football activities to his satisfaction:

“Very much so. Very much so. He comes out, he works hard in practice, puts in a day’s work, solid in the classroom. When he’s in the building he’s been solid.”

On if he sees Gordon’s situation weighing on him at all:
“That’s probably a better question for him, but I can’t imagine that it wouldn’t. It would be human nature.”

On if the Browns are going to stand by Gordon once this is final:
“Your key statement there is, ‘once this is final.’ I’ll be consistent in what I’ve said. Until we hear from the league, we’re going to be business as usual. At this point, there’s nothing to act on.”

On when he expects to hear a decision by the NFL on Gordon, whether 10 minutes or five months:
“Yes. We don’t know. That’s part of it, and I think everybody can sense the frustration but it’s a difficult thing. Until it happens, we have a plan in place for all eventualities. We’re just like everybody else, still in a holding pattern.”

On if he feels the Browns have a good support system in place for players with off-the-field issues:
“I think that we do. That’s one of the things that I’ve been impressed with in being here so far. I think the hiring of (Browns director of player engagement) Jamil Northcutt was very much under the radar and very important. I think he brings an outstanding background in his ability to relate to the players, and be able to really reach all of them. I just think not only him, but (Browns head athletic trainer) Joe Sheehan and the training room…I think the guys around, the support staff have a really good pulse of this team. I think it’s something that I have a real good feeling about. People have asked about that and the sense in the locker room, and for the most part it’s been very positive.”

On if he feels that the league does enough to support players that have had off-the-field issues:
“I do. I think there’s a lot of help available. I think that the mandated programs for rookies are very important. I’ve sat in some of those meetings. It’s very impressive, but there has to be a willingness on the other side. Sometimes guys get the message that it’s too late. In all my time in the league, there’s always going to be a handful of guys that just don’t get it. I think the league’s done more than enough to get the word out. I think the better clubs are the ones that are very proactive instead of reactive, and I think that’s the situation that we have here.”

On if Gordon’s situation is hard because he does well in the building but experiences incidents off the field:
“No, that’s the situation he’s in. It’s not the first guy in the league to be like that, where a guy that when he’s in the building he’s great and has some issues for whatever reason due to circumstances when he’s out of the building. I’m not a stranger to situations like that, and I don’t think the rest of the staff is either.”

On whether the Browns will clear QB Brian Hoyer for full activities next week:
“That’s a meeting we’re going to have either Friday or Monday with Joe (Sheehan). Being cautious, I would say if I had to make the decision today I’d lean toward just keeping it the way we’ve been doing it and being in what we’ve called ‘Spartan mode” where the [defensive] line plays run, takes a couple steps and stops, just to kind of keep bodies from being around him. I just think from a risk-reward standpoint it just still doesn’t make a lot of sense to expose him at this point.”

On Hoyer:
“I think he’s looked pretty good. I think he’s shown the ability to make all the throws. He’s just, as all the quarterbacks are, settling into the new offense, the terminology, the reads. You saw a bunch of throws today where it wasn’t just him, but the receivers weren’t on the same page with the quarterbacks and vice versa, and that’s just growing pains. That’s going to come over time, anytime you’re installing a new offense.”

On if Browns QB Johnny Manziel showed signs of ‘Johnny Football’ in a few plays during practice:
“It is. It’s difficult when he’s got the red shirt on and the defensive guys know they can’t tackle him. It’s hard to get glimpses of that. That’s truly what you get, but we’ve done some things – as you probably saw – some designed rollouts with him. He’s shown when he can get in the open field that he can run through an angle and he can eat up some ground pretty quickly.”

On if he noticed anything on the interceptions Manziel threw during practice:
“I don’t know. Until I watch the tape and get with the offensive coaches, I’m not sure. I know at least one of them was a result of the wrong route. I know one of them was the result of a misread.”

On if he would rather see the quarterbacks play aggressively and throw interceptions or play more conservative during this part of the offseason:
“I’d rather them test their limits. I’d rather them learn the lesson today when essentially it doesn’t count, learn those lessons that, ‘Hey. I think I can fit it in that window. Oops I can’t.’ I’d rather now than September.”

On if he has noticed anything different in the quarterbacks since last week:

“Not really. I just think they’re in the normal progression of learning it. I think some of the terminology is a little bit bulky for all of them. I think Brian’s ahead with that just because he’s had more experience doing it, but it’s just a matter of some of those play calls are a mouthful. That’s something that all of the guys that are truly new to it have to adapt to.”

On if he gets the sense that teammates gravitate toward Manziel after he makes a good play in practice:

“Yeah, I think that happens. I think that goes back to just when we talk about what we’re looking for in a quarterback. If you said draw me a quarterback, I don’t think you would draw him – shorter guy with big feet and big hands. I don’t think that would be the first thing to go down on the paper, but when they have the ‘it’ factor to them, it’s just a sense. It’s momentum where guys feel it and ‘gravitates’ is a good word for it. We’ve seen the same thing here with Brian, as well.”

 

LBJ AND THE CAVS, HOME FIELD ADVANATGE FOR THE TRIBE AND MANZIEL VS GORDON

If you’re a LeBron James fan and you’re hoping he might return to Cleveland in the off season, the only chance, and it’s a small one, the Cavs have off possibly getting LBJ to think about leaving Miami this off season and considering the Cavaliers in free agency is, if the Heat lose to the Spurs in the NBA Finals. This would nullify LeBron and the Heat a chance of going for a four-peat next year.  So if you want LeBron back, you’re thinking – Go Spurs Go!

Having said that, I picked the Heat to win the title at the beginning of the season, then again at the start of the playoffs and I’m sticking with them in 6 games over the Spurs. However I will be pulling for Timmy, Manu and Tony to exact their revenge after giving away the title last year.

The Cavs have talked with at least four head coaching candidates in Adrian Griffin, Tyronn Lue, Alvin Gentry and Lionel Hollins. Griffin and Lue are the hot, young assistants looking for their first chance to be a head coach in the NBA, while gentry and Hollins are the older, retreads if you will, who have had some success as head coaches in the NBA, but have never made it past the conference finals. It’ll be interesting to see which way new Cavs G.M. David Griffin and owner Dan Gilbert want to go.

Not sure who the clubhouse leader is, but keep this in mind. Gentry was with David Griffin in Phoenix and has some ties to Dan Gilbert when Gentry was with the Pistons.

But I’ve heard that Adrian Griffin had a very good interview and Bulls head coach Tom Thibodeau has given him a ringing endorsement. Lue is respected throughout the league and has learned from one of the best head coaches in the league in Doc Rivers over the last 5 years.

My choice is still Fred Hoiberg from Iowa St., but sources tell me “The Mayor” is leaning towards staying in the college game for now, but I’m not ruling him out just yet.

Other names could pop up and we’ve probably missed some names of coaches they have at least made a phone call to. As David Griffin told us at his press conference, they’re in no hurry to name their coach because they want to make sure in their eyes, they get the right coach, not the first coach.

In case you were wondering my top three draft picks are 1-Andrew Wiggins, 2-Joel Embiid and 3-Jabari Parker. I’ve heard the Cavs top three are 1-Joel Embiid, 2-Andrew Wiggins and 3-Jabari Parker. Embiid is number one on the Cavs list pending a team physical and battery of tests on that questionable back of his.

After getting swept in Chicago by the White Sox, the Indians answered with a huge bounce back series sweep this weekend over the Rockies,  capped off by Michael Bourn’s walk-off 2-run homer on Sunday. The Tribe now with an A.L. best (18-11) home record with three more games left at Progressive Field this week against the Red Sox.

As for the Browns, sounds like his trips to Vegas and L.A. haven’t hurt Johnny Manziel’s performance on the practice field. While he hasn’t been perfect, he’s performed well from what I’ve been told. So I’ll say it today, like I did a week or so ago, chill out and judge the kid based on what he does on the field.

If you want to judge a player for his stupidity off the field then judge Josh Gordon. Gordon is just flat out stupid. Do you not want to play in the NFL? You’re waiting on the results of your appeal with the league involving a drug test and then you go and get a ticket for speeding with supposedly, allegedly marijuana in the car belonging to your friends. That’s just flat out STUPID! The Browns have to seriously consider just cutting ties with Gordon regardless of how talented he is on the field!

BROWNS GM RAY FARMER and HC MIKE PETTINE TRANSCRIPT – RECAPPING DAY 2 INCLUDING JOSH GORDON and NATE BURLESON

Opening statement:

Farmer: “First and foremost, thank to everyone for hanging around late tonight. I know there’s been a lot of shocking supposedly news that we’re not going to comment on in regards to (Browns WR) Josh Gordon. We’re not going to comment on our players’ health status and anyone that’s on this roster. If there are any other questions pertaining to the draft we’ll be happy to answer those questions and move forward.”

 

On not answering players’ health statuses:

Farmer: “I think the regards of any players’ status, with regards to their contract or their health, it’s a private matter. To that end, I would say that it doesn’t behoove anyone if the player isn’t going to miss any time from any games that may be played.”

 

On the report that the Browns staff knew about Josh Gordon’s possible suspension before the draft:

Farmer: “I opened the press conference with the idea that we’re not going to comment about anything that has to do with Josh Gordon or any status of our players, in regards to their health.”

 

On why the Browns are not commenting on the reports in regards to Gordon:

Farmer: “To the end that the league has really stated what we can say and what we cannot say. Until we have definitive clarity as to what those things are, we’re going to remain silent.”

 

On if the reports affected how the Browns drafted players:

Farmer: “The reason why we pick and how we pick is truly predicated on our process. We go through the board, and again to add some clarity and some insight as to how the structure is worked or oriented – we organize the players, we rank them, we stack them, we stick to it. We believe in – you do the work for a reason. You take the best players available. You establish your team by going through that process and making sure you draft the best guys and how you had them ordered of who were the best players in college football.”

 

On if the reports regarding Gordon put a damper on what was a big day for the Browns:

Farmer: “I think it still is a big day for the Browns. We picked up three good football players. We went into this draft, and we had an opportunity to acquire players, and we did just that. The first young man that we took (OL) Joel Bitonio, is going to help this football team tremendously, as well as (LB) Christian Kirksey, as well as (RB) Terrance West.”

 

On if he is concerned with the depth at wide receiver:

Farmer: “I’m not concerned with my depth at wide receiver.”

 

On why the Browns haven’t drafted a wide receiver:

Farmer: “At the time that we made our selections, we took the best player available for what we wanted to do. There were players available, we stuck with our board, as we looked at that board when it was our turn to select, we took the name that was the best name for us at that time.”

 

On why he is not concerned with the depth at wide receiver:

Farmer: “I’m not concerned with the depth at wide receiver because we play games in September, and right now there’s still plenty of opportunity for us to acquire players and to make things happen. Whether its trades, whether it’s drafting someone the next day, whether it’s players that get cut or we acquire somebody from the street. There’s always opportunities to acquire players. From our prospective, that where we’re focused on is using every opportunity to acquire players that become available.”

 

On what they saw in West:

Farmer: “We saw a young man that was strong. He was tough. He was physical, and he played like a Brown. He embodied those properties that we talked about before. Not to be a tall back, he’s a shorter back, but he’s a thick-framed kid over 220-pounds. He ran well. He caught the ball well. He was able to demonstrate he could take contact and stay on his feet. He was also light-footed enough to make people miss. There were plenty of good things to like about Terrance West.”

 

On if acquiring tough players in the draft has been an emphasis:
Pettine:
 “Yeah, we have a plan of how we’re going to build this team. We’re going to build it on character. We’re going to build it on toughness. I think what we’ve done so far in this draft embodies that, and that was important to us, not just to talk about it. You’re not going to stand in front of a room and say, ‘Hey, let’s get tougher.’ What you do is you get tough people in that room. As we’ve said all along, that’s football, a tough sport for tough people, and we feel for us to compete in this division and in the NFL that that’s the model we’re going to take.”

 

On Kirksey’s ability to play inside or outside linebacker:

Pettine: “That’s one thing we like about him is his position flexibility. We’re in the business of adding outstanding football players who fit the ‘play like a Brown’ attributes, and we’ve always been one in our system to really cherish a player that can play multiple spots. He can play the MIKE, play the WILL, play outside on the edge if he had to. He has some strong safety type attributes, which I think today’s linebacker is something you’re looking for given the athletic tight ends and the spread formations you’re getting.”

 

On if Kirksey fits the mold of what he said previously about wanting more speed instead of size:

Pettine: “I think that’s fair to say, that you’re always looking to improve your speed, defensively, I think at certain positions that you’re willing to sacrifice speed because I also think that adding strength and adding bulk is among the easier things to do once a player gets to this level. It’s hard to get them significantly faster. We’d rather take the better athlete, the faster guy, and trust in our strength program and what we do nutritionally and in the training room that we can add that.”

 

On how RB Terrance West complements RB Ben Tate:

Pettine: “I think it will be a good mix. I think it’s very difficult in this league, especially in this division and especially in our mindset; we’re going to run the football to put all of that on one player. I think when you have guys who can play off of each other and feed the hot hand and have a guy go for a series or two and replace him, what’s nice about both of these guys is that they can both catch the ball so there’s no issue with this guy can’t be on the field on third down.”

 

On if it’s easier to project a running back from a small school’s NFL capabilities than other positions:

Farmer: “I wouldn’t say it’s easier, but I do think when you watch the tape, there are several opportunities that you can watch a guy like Terrance West play against bigger competition. I think that helps the projection some. When you get a guy that has opportunities, I’ll give the easiest example of Khalil Mack, how big of a prospect would Khalil Mack have been had he not played Ohio State and had that type of game in that situation? I think that when you see guys have these opportunities against the bigger schools and they demonstrate how they belong in that environment, it does make a little bit of the projection easier.”

On the need on the offensive line and where OL Joel Bitonio will play:

Pettine: “The great thing about Joel is that he has position versatility. He’s a guy we think can play all five spots. We’ll get him here and see what the best spot is for him. It’s likely at guard, but when you talk about Play Like a Brown and what we’re looking for in an offensive lineman, he truly embodies that. We wanted to upgrade our toughness, our nastiness and that’s one of the things that jumps off the tape when he plays.”

 

On comparing West to other running backs:

Farmer: “That’s interesting. I will tell you that the best attributes about this kid, again, he’s a shorter, more compact-frame kid. I don’t want to say he’s quite as short as… It’s kind of interesting because I actually piece guys together in my head. I don’t just give a simple comparison. He’s kind of like a Maurice Jones-Drew build, but he’s actually a slightly taller kid, but he’s got the same kind of thick-ish frame when you look at him – big legs, barrel-chested kind of kid – but he’s a nifty-footed kid. People are going to say it sounds like an egregious comparison, but he kind of has the (former NFL RB) Jerome Bettis nifty-footed guy kind of feel to him when you watch him play.”

 

On where running backs were selected in 2014 was a result of the class or the position and how the position is currently valued:

Farmer: “That’s a really interesting question because when you look at that fact, a lot of running backs didn’t go. After they did start to go, there’s always a thing that we call “runs”. They started to make a run on running backs, and even the linebacker crew, there were no real linebackers selected after the first two, as far as guys who were considered inside guys that play stacked and off the ball. There was a wide gap, I guess, in the league’s view of the top two guys in (Ravens LB) C.J. Mosley and (Steelers LB) Ryan Shazier that went early and then you through a lull of those guys not going. It could speak to the fact that people thought this draft was deeper in other areas and people wanted to make sure they capitalized on those other players sooner, but eventually like you saw here recently, there was a big push in both the linebackers and the running backs to try to catch those numbers up to some of the league averages that usually exist.”

 

On if the Browns hesitated to trade in the third round, considering the number of picks it left for Rounds 4-7:

Farmer: “I don’t think there was any hesitation. I think that at the end of the day, the object of the draft is to get good football players. In a general context, the closer you are to the front, supposedly, the better chance you have at the talent that is available. From our perspective, we took an opportunity to get a young man that we thought really was going to go soon. Getting back into the back end of the third round, we had an inkling that other teams were going to try to circle the wagons on (RB Terrance West) when it got to the compensatory picks and so we felt that we needed to jump back in before he disappeared and we had a chance to select him at 106.”

 

On when the Browns may have clarity on Gordon’s status:

Farmer: “Again, I don’t know the answer to that question so whenever we do have clarity, we will definitely express our sentiments then.”

 

On explaining why the team hasn’t shared more information on Burleson or Gordon:

Farmer: “I would tell folks that until I have something to tell them, there’s nothing I can say.”

 

On not providing more information on Burleson’s reported injury status:

Farmer: “I will tell you that in the context of what we’re doing, Nate Burleson is not going to miss any games for our football team. Does it really matter if he was here or if he was missing or if he decided not to come to the offseason program at all? The two are somewhat in my mind really not that big of a deal of where the guy is going to be in training camp. Is he going to be available to play and practice? If those things are legitimate, then I don’t know if they really matter for us to get into what the details are.”

 

On if Burleson will participate in mandatory minicamp:

Farmer: “Again, we’re not going to comment on players and what their statuses are.”

Pettine: “The league doesn’t require us to discuss injuries at this point.”

 

On spending time with Manziel today:

Pettine: “I did. He had an excellent visit.”

 

On learning about Manziel today:

Pettine: “To me, it was more about starting to go in-depth with some of the football stuff. We had a pretty good feel for what he knew football-wise, but I think we were more interested in Johnny the person during that process. I didn’t personally get much of a chance to speak football with him yet, the coaches did. In the brief amount of time I got with him today, we got into some of the stuff that he was taught, some of the stuff that he enjoys doing football-wise.”

 

On a concern with media, particularly entertainment media, scrutinizing Manziel as a face of the franchise, specifically referencing the TMZ photos with champagne:

Farmer: “Anytime you have a celebrity or you’re popular, there’s going to be people following you and giving you unwanted attention. I think there are definitely opportunities. The average person has had champagne or has drunk out of a bottle, but they just don’t get pictures taken of them. The fact that he is that and he knows what his celebrity is or his star, he’s going to have to learn to understand that people are going to follow him and take pictures of him. He’ll get there. I said this the other day: He’s had a steep learning curve with regard to how quickly popularity and fame can affect someone’s life. When a guy does things and the pictures surface, it’s a part of a process. To say that he’s completely the face of the franchise, I don’t know if that’s the case at this moment.”

 

On having a large gap between picks tomorrow and if he’s still looking to trade more picks:

Farmer: “Assuming someone would want to come and make a trade, we would definitely listen. If opportunities present themselves and there’s a trade that makes sense for us, then we’ll definitely look to potentially move a pick, move around or do the things we need to do to acquire the players that are available.”

 

On if this draft is deep enough to find starters through three rounds, and if Kirksey could be part of the rotation this year:

Pettine: “Our draft philosophy as we’ve already stated is to bring players in to compete. We’re not going to have players walk into jobs. We are confident that he will come in and be able to compete and be in a position to potentially win a starting job. We’re also very confident in the linebackers that we have here. The tremendous value where we had him rated on the board and where we took him, it was an outstanding pick for us. We’re looking forward to getting him here and seeing him go to work.”

 

On trades and watching the draft unfold during the past 24 hours:

Farmer: “It’s been painful. When you watch guys that you really want go, it’s not good to watch them go. There’s a reason you do all the work. There’s a part of being a scout that you start to endear yourself to certain guys. You like certain players. You want certain guys. Sometimes you watch guys go, and you (sighing noise) and you get the devastated look and the feel of ‘I wanted that one,’ but, there’s nothing you can do. All of the boards are different. All boards are completely different than everyone else’s in the league. To that end, I don’t know where the other 32 teams have a specific player ranked. As he comes up on our board, and we think there’s value there, we take him. That’s the same with everyone else. They look at the guy and they look at their board, and as those players fit their needs, their wants or desires, they make the selection. Oftentimes, there are names that get called that you were hoping, ‘Man I hope this guy lasts until this point or I hope he makes it to this point in the draft,’ and there are just opportunities where other teams valued that player higher than you did.”

 

On positiions of need that the the Browns may address tomorrow:

Farmer: “Getting a good football player and making sure that he’s the right type of guy for us. Again, the No. 1 thing I think we’ve been focused on is letting players come to us, staying focused on and relying on what we know about each guy, relying about what we know about each team, working the phones so that we understand what’s happening in and around that position that we may have to take a player and then making those adjustments. Like I said previously with Terrance West, we didn’t think he’d make it to 106. We wanted the player so we did what we had to go to make sure that we got the player. Those are the things that I think really come into play. When there’s an opportunity to make the selection or to put yourself in a position to make a selection, then you take those liberties and those chances when they’re available.”

 

On if it is optimal to acquire certain position players during the draft compared to others:

Farmer: “I think as we said, we’re going to stay focused on the board and let the players come to us as they come.”

 

On comments about doing backflips when DB Justin Gilbert was selected:

Pettine: “That wasn’t literal that was a metaphor (laughter).”

 

On the experience of watching the board and staying with the process:

Pettine: “The staff has done a good job, and I’ve tried to do it a little more subtle than the staff has as far as letting them know what positions we’d like. Ray’s been great in taking the input from the scouts, set the board and then adjusted it based on what the coaches saw. I think that this was an important year for that to happen given that it’s first year of new systems, where are idea of a SAM linebacker and a safety and an offensive guard and what those look like in our system. There are some subtle differences from team to team, and it was important for Ray. He was great with it to listen and take in that input and adjust the grades accordingly, and I think that he kind of leaned toward the coaches some in certain situations in knowing that we knew best what we were looking for system-wise. If you would’ve said to me that after two days of the draft that we’d be sitting with the guys that we got and the value that we got for those picks, I would’ve done two mental backflips instead of one.”

 

On Kirksey’s leadership traits:

Pettine: “Those were the things that we were looking for, a two year captain. Those are the things that you are looking for, the intangible stuff. I know that it’s a cliché and we use over and over again, but we truly look for those attributes. He’s passionate about football he loves football and that comes across very clearly when you talk to him, and that’s one of the reasons why we were thrilled to turn the card in.”

 

On evaluating the Bronws’ draft process as it related to trades and selecting Manziel:

Farmer: “We managed that situation very carefully. From the time that we made our selection of Justin, we had our eyes on multiple players. Johnny was in a bundle of guys, and as we went through that process, you know a team’s needs or you think you know a team’s needs and kind of where they may go or where they may strike. We worked through that process diligently of making phone calls, monitoring time on the clock and who could potentially trade, and it just really came down to just a final phone call with the Eagles to where we finally got that deal done. We monitored that situation from one point in the draft until we picked him.”

 

On being confident that there is currently a No. 2 receiver on the roster:

Farmer: “I do. I feel like there are multiple receivers that can have a chance to contribute to our team. In that I think that those guys that are here, as well as guys that may not be here, will have that chance. Yes, I do feel that we have a guy on the roster that can definitely contribute in that starting capacity.”

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